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Offline sadie

Re: For Albertini ...
« Reply #435 on: August 24, 2013, 12:13:58 AM »
Thank-you, Sadie. It's nice to be appreciated.

By the way, I think I just saw 'spotty man' in Brooklyn.

Could that fit in to your theory?!

 8((()*/  Ooooo, every bit

You are clever .... @)(++(*

Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: For Albertini ...
« Reply #436 on: August 24, 2013, 12:15:17 AM »
That's the Portuguese police's job, Holmes, since the perpetrator perpetrated on Portuguese territory. If the Yard finds evidence, the Public Ministry will be glad to open an inquiry, at Portuguese costs of course.

That's correct, strictly speaking, but in reality the overall costs of this investigation are being partially shouldered by the UK, not just the Portuguese. Just ask the British taxpayer.

Lyall

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Re: For Albertini ...
« Reply #437 on: August 24, 2013, 12:19:22 AM »
That's not logic, Anne, that's emotion.

SY's official line that 'Madeleine could still be alive' is one thing, but the fact remains that as Madeleine's parents, the McCann's need to know what happened, no matter what. In driving the investigations, they know that they are taking the risk of finding out things that could be extremely hard to bear,  including the possibility that their daughter is dead, but they take this risk because in 'not knowing' there is even greater pain. The need to know what has become of our loved ones is a fundamental human need, regardless of the circumstances.

In addition to performing the task of looking for Madeleine for her own and her parents' benefit, SY also have a public duty to carry out in seeking and apprehending the perpetrator (s) of this crime, who may still be at large. Hence the justification for their use of such substantial public funds.

A public duty perhaps, but it doesn't appear to be an urgent one. It's five years now since the previous investigation was shelved.

I can't blame people who are cynical.

AnneGuedes

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Re: For Albertini ...
« Reply #438 on: August 24, 2013, 12:27:54 AM »

I'm just reporting what the Lusa press agency said, the work deployed by the Portuguese will be paid by the Portuguese tax payers, though the case is shelved. It's the current practice in case of rogatory missions.
The Portuguese article quoted by DCI mentioned the presence of British officers wasn't sure.
« Last Edit: August 24, 2013, 12:30:41 AM by AnneGuedes »

Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: For Albertini ...
« Reply #439 on: August 24, 2013, 12:29:45 AM »
A public duty perhaps, but it doesn't appear to be an urgent one. It's five years now since the previous investigation was shelved.

I can't blame people who are cynical.

Hello Lyall,

That may be, but it doesn't alter the fact that a proper investigation still hasn't been carried out and completed. At least SY are being given a chance to do their work, however late in the day.

Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: For Albertini ...
« Reply #440 on: August 24, 2013, 12:31:15 AM »
I'm just reporting what the Lusa press agency said, Holmes, the work deployed by the Portuguese will be paid by the Portuguese tax payers, though the case is shelved. It's the current practice in case of rogatory missions.
The Portuguese article quoted by DCI mentioned the presence of British officers wasn't sure.

The Portuguese will pay for Portuguese efforts, and the British the British

AnneGuedes

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Re: For Albertini ...
« Reply #441 on: August 24, 2013, 12:33:01 AM »
The LC collaborated with the PJ from the very beginning. They left when the arguidos went back to the UK.

Lyall

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Re: For Albertini ...
« Reply #442 on: August 24, 2013, 01:36:14 AM »
Hello Lyall,

That may be, but it doesn't alter the fact that a proper investigation still hasn't been carried out and completed. At least SY are being given a chance to do their work, however late in the day.

Hi Mr Holmes. Has there been any indication SY have interviewed anyone in the UK yet? They can only proceed through rogatory process in Portugal, but there's no such restriction the UK I presume?

The press only seem to be mentioning Portugal - any news about witnesses living in the UK?

Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: For Albertini ...
« Reply #443 on: August 24, 2013, 02:37:31 AM »
Hi Mr Holmes. Has there been any indication SY have interviewed anyone in the UK yet? They can only proceed through rogatory process in Portugal, but there's no such restriction the UK I presume?

The press only seem to be mentioning Portugal - any news about witnesses living in the UK?

I am not always rendered privy to the workings of Scotland Yard, and at this time they are not making themselves transparent in the media.

I think it has been mentioned in some reports that there are UK citizens among those listed by SY as 'persons of interest', whom I understand SY would be at liberty to attempt to interview in the UK irrespective of the official status of the investigation as regards the Portuguese.

Sherlock is not currently resident in Britain, however, so could stand to be corrected
« Last Edit: August 24, 2013, 02:44:58 AM by Sherlock Holmes »

Offline sadie

Re: For Albertini ...
« Reply #444 on: August 24, 2013, 04:56:28 PM »
I am not always rendered privy to the workings of Scotland Yard, and at this time they are not making themselves transparent in the media.

I think it has been mentioned in some reports that there are UK citizens among those listed by SY as 'persons of interest', whom I understand SY would be at liberty to attempt to interview in the UK irrespective of the official status of the investigation as regards the Portuguese.

Sherlock is not currently resident in Britain, however, so could stand to be corrected

IIRC, the word used was British Nationals.  Is that the same as UK Citizens?   Anyone know ?

Please correct me if I have remembered the wrong term.

Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: For Albertini ...
« Reply #445 on: August 24, 2013, 05:06:54 PM »
IIRC, the word used was British Nationals.  Is that the same as UK Citizens?   Anyone know ?

Please correct me if I have remembered the wrong term.

I think that Commonwealth residents can be British Nationals - it's a broader term.

Lyall

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Re: For Albertini ...
« Reply #446 on: August 24, 2013, 05:07:56 PM »
I'm not sure nationality or residency status matters - I think if they're in the UK the Met can interview them.

Lyall

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Re: For Albertini ...
« Reply #447 on: August 24, 2013, 05:13:55 PM »
if they feel like it that is 8(0(*

Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: For Albertini ...
« Reply #448 on: August 24, 2013, 05:29:23 PM »
I'm not sure nationality or residency status matters - I think if they're in the UK the Met can interview them.

Yes that's a good point - anyone in the UK is bound by English / Scottish law whilst in the country

Offline sadie

Re: For Albertini ...
« Reply #449 on: August 24, 2013, 05:37:35 PM »
I'm not sure nationality or residency status matters - I think if they're in the UK the Met can interview them.
What about if they are in PT or elsewhere in the world?  Do you know then?