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Offline Montclair

Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2013, 11:34:47 PM »
How do you know that as a fact? By being on the internet, it could have been on a private site to which you had no access. This is however not particularly likely, I admit.

Alternatively MW could have got the date wrong, or you could have misheard August 2008 for August 2009 when there clearly was a translation on the internet.

Perhaps you could check the date when next at court?

It could not have been August 2009 because the McCanns had obtained the injunction on the book in September 2009 after having failed their first two attempts when judges refused to take the case. Therefore, they would have had to make the decision to sue long before August 2009 because something like this takes a long time to prepare. Also, they had trouble finding a lawyer to take their case in Portugal. No doubt that he said August 2008.

AnneGuedes

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Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2013, 11:40:37 PM »
Actually a summary and some extracts were published on Internet in Summer 2008, but I don't think there was a complete translation before June 2009, when they required the providência cautelar.

Redblossom

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Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2013, 11:42:32 PM »
It could not have been August 2009 because the McCanns had obtained the injunction on the book in September 2009 after having failed their first two attempts when judges refused to take the case. Therefore, they would have had to make the decision to sue long before August 2009 because something like this takes a long time to prepare. Also, they had trouble finding a lawyer to take their case in Portugal. No doubt that he said August 2008.

Exactly and issued the writ months earlier
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Offline gilet

Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2013, 11:52:06 PM »
It could not have been August 2009 because the McCanns had obtained the injunction on the book in September 2009 after having failed their first two attempts when judges refused to take the case. Therefore, they would have had to make the decision to sue long before August 2009 because something like this takes a long time to prepare. Also, they had trouble finding a lawyer to take their case in Portugal. No doubt that he said August 2008.

In which case could it have been a reference to this summary version with extracts by Claudia Proud of the PJ?

http://proud-of-the-pj.blogspot.co.uk/2008/07/ouch.html

That was certainly online in August 2008.

Offline gilet

Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2013, 11:56:03 PM »
Actually a summary and some extracts were published on Internet in Summer 2008, but I don't think there was a complete translation before June 2009, when they required the providência cautelar.

You are possibly right and injunction provoked the translation being put online in full.

I have posted above the likely source which MW was referring to, that which you also referred in this post.

Offline TTSOFAFM

Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2013, 12:06:16 AM »
Actually a summary and some extracts were published on Internet in Summer 2008, but I don't think there was a complete translation before June 2009, when they required the providência cautelar.
Yes the extracts appear on McCann Files and Proud of the PJ blog

Both extracts also conclude with this.

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CONCLUSIONS:
 
- Madeleine McCanns died in aprtment 5A on May the 3rd 2007.
 
- There was a simulation/fake of an abduction.
 
- Kate and Gerry are suspects in the involvement of the disposal of their daughter's body.
 
- Madeleine's death may have been caused by a tragic accident.
 
- There is evidence of negligence regarding the guard and security of the children.

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1. A menor Madeleine McCann morreu no apartamento 5Ado Ocean Club, da Vila da Luz, na noite de 3 de Maio de2007;

2. Ocorreu uma simulação de rapto;

3. Kate Healy e Gerald McCann são suspeitos de envolvi-mento na ocultação do cadáver da sua filha;

4. A morte poderá ter sobrevindo em resultado de um trá-gico acidente;

5. Existem indícios de negligência na guarda e segurançados filhos.

Page 211

http://www.scribd.com/doc/24710509/Maddie-A-Verdade-Da-Mentira
« Last Edit: September 26, 2013, 12:13:27 AM by TTSOFAFM »

Redblossom

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Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2013, 12:12:52 AM »
You are possibly right and injunction provoked the translation being put online in full.

I have posted above the likely source which MW was referring to, that which you also referred in this post.

Ridiculous to assume any injunction  had any power over the internet LoooooL

Redblossom

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Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2013, 12:24:58 AM »
there was nothng *slurred about my post* and nothing ambiguous I clearly said you may be right or wrong

oh and I dont do  hearsay dear

Here is the evidence your heros lied, copy and paste of a recent post of mine


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What about what the Mccanns were reporting vis a vis the libel action?


From a SIC interview given 12 May 2009

Q There's also been Gonçalo Amaral's book and at the time there was a lot of talk about possible legal charges bought up by you against Gonçalo Amaral. Are you still considering these legal charges against him?
 
Gerry McCann: We certainly haven't ruled it out. The reason we haven't done it to date is we didn't want to create... and I think there's been enough Anglo-Portuguese angst, particularly in the media and we certainly, errr... didn't want to exacerbate that but, you know, he clearly is getting, errr... more outrageous and we certainly wouldn't rule it out.

 
Kate McCann: At the same time, you know, it... it's a distraction, you know, what Mr Amaral is doing. I mean, it's... it's damaging to our search, errm... but at the same time, you know, we want to find Madeleine. We want to move forward and get new information and we don't want to be derailed by negative people who have their own agendas, you know, so...
 
Gerry McCann: That is... I mean, that's a very good point, you know; we don't want to look back, we are trying to do things, but it gets to the point, errr... where you just think: 'enough's enough'.

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2009/05/mccanns-interview-to-sic.html

So how is Kate Mccann writing in her book Madeleine that conversations with their lawyer had been ongoing since November 2008, Gerry made a trip in January 2009 to see the lawyer about suing Amaral and by April 20 2009 they made the decision to sue!

Why was Gerry Mccann keeping the decision/legal action a secret?

Some quotes from kates book here
http://steelmagnolia-steelmagnolia.blogspot.co.uk/2011/05/kate-mccanns-deep-harted-for-goncalo.html

Bump for gilet LoooooL any ideas????

at 8.40 on this video too

http://blip.tv/joana-morais-tv/especial-maddie-entrevista-2118038
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Offline gilet

Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2013, 12:34:54 AM »
Ridiculous to assume any injunction  had any power over the internet LoooooL

Once again you have misread. There is nothing in my post suggesting the injunction had power over the internet.

I correctly stated that the injunction may have provoked the publication of the translation on the internet. And I stand by that. Because anti McCanns believed that following the injunction there was less likelihood of the UK public after the injunction ever being able to read the book in English they decided to post it on the Internet. One provoked the other.

Offline faithlilly

Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2013, 12:51:19 AM »
Bump for gilet LoooooL any ideas????

Seems gilet has turned in for the night Red. Perhaps she'll answer your question tomorrow eh ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Redblossom

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Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #25 on: September 26, 2013, 12:56:39 AM »
Seems gilet has turned in for the night Red. Perhaps she'll answer your question tomorrow eh ?

Ha ha LOL look forward  to the explanatio /excuse
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Offline John

Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #26 on: September 26, 2013, 11:27:12 AM »
For info:  This off topic thread has been renamed and tidied up, hopefully it makes sense now.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

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Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #27 on: September 26, 2013, 12:50:34 PM »
The problem is there was no translation of the book on Internet in August 2008...

But your friend, Joana translated it Anne!

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Offline gilet

Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #28 on: September 26, 2013, 05:04:08 PM »
In order not to take this thread off topic I have posted a reply to Redblossom's post here.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2400.new#new
« Last Edit: September 26, 2013, 05:07:55 PM by gilet »

Offline gilet

Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #29 on: September 26, 2013, 05:04:55 PM »
Seems gilet has turned in for the night Red. Perhaps she'll answer your question tomorrow eh ?

I am not as omnipresent on this forum as some would suggest. But I have posted a full reply above as promised.