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Rachel Granada

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Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #30 on: September 26, 2013, 07:17:27 PM »
Anne, it seems that Joana Morais translated this book very soon after it came out???


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« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2013, 07:25:12 PM »
Mr Pike said he was sent by Mrs McCann a translation of Mr Amaral's book. Which translation ? AnnaEsse's translation ? Had it been Anna's translation, Mrs McCann would likely have acknowledged it and thanked, don't you think ?


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I may be wrong but I think that Anna Andress didn't conclude the translation of the book until the beginning of 2010.

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Yeap, I can say that it was in 2010, January, 11th as her homepage displays http://frommybigdesk.blogspot.pt/2010/01/maddie-truth-of-lie.html
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Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2013, 07:38:04 PM »

Joana Morais didn't translate the book, she merely used extracts when it was opportune. As many other people did.

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Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #33 on: September 26, 2013, 07:51:55 PM »
Perhaps you could check the date when next at court?
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I checked my notes : no doubt about 2008 (and "eight" sounds quite different from "nine", don't you think ?). He himself says before that he read the translation shortly after the book was published.
If you know of another Internet translation, please tell us !
Why Anna Esse would have wasted time translating from French ?

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Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #34 on: September 26, 2013, 08:00:28 PM »
Seems odd, don't you think, why would Anna esse translate his second book on 3/05/2009, before the first one.

Who translated it from Portuguese, to French. I would have thought it was written in Portuguese.
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Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #35 on: September 26, 2013, 08:01:47 PM »
Once again you have misread. There is nothing in my post suggesting the injunction had power over the internet.

I correctly stated that the injunction may have provoked the publication of the translation on the internet. And I stand by that. Because anti McCanns believed that following the injunction there was less likelihood of the UK public after the injunction ever being able to read the book in English they decided to post it on the Internet. One provoked the other.
That might be true. And Luz seems to confirm, as she says the book was translated in January 2010 (after being published in French, the language it was translated from, in May 2009).
Up to the injunction, there were proceedings (imo) to have the book published in the UK.
That doesn't explain though how Mr Pike, Mr Wright and Mr and Mrs McCann, among possible others, read the book in 2008 or 2009.


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Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #36 on: September 26, 2013, 08:03:13 PM »
Seems odd, don't you think, why would Anna esse translate his second book on 3/05/2009, before the first one.

Who translated it from Portuguese, to French. I would have thought it was written in Portuguese.

Yes, that seems a bit odd DCI. 


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Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #37 on: September 26, 2013, 08:06:26 PM »
Seems odd, don't you think, why would Anna esse translate his second book on 3/05/2009, before the first one.

Who translated it from Portuguese, to French. I would have thought it was written in Portuguese.
What are you saying, DCI ? To my knowledge Anna translated only one book, the truth...
She doesn't know Portuguese, but she knows French. That's why she translated from French. I don't know who translated the book in French, I even never saw the book itself and I have therefore no idea about the quality of the translation. All translations from GA's book that are in the reports are mine.

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Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #38 on: September 26, 2013, 08:09:57 PM »
That might be true. And Luz seems to confirm, as she says the book was translated in January 2010 (after being published in French, the language it was translated from, in May 2009).
Up to the injunction, there were proceedings (imo) to have the book published in the UK.
That doesn't explain though how Mr Pike, Mr Wright and Mr and Mrs McCann, among possible others, read the book in 2008 or 2009.

Jeez!!

Surely you don't need Einstein, to work it out Anne. The book was on sale from July 24th 2008 in Portugal.
Could only the Portuguese people buy it, when it was released?
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Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #39 on: September 26, 2013, 08:14:45 PM »
What are you saying, DCI ? To my knowledge Anna translated only one book, the truth...
She doesn't know Portuguese, but she knows French. That's why she translated from French. I don't know who translated the book in French, I even never saw the book itself and I have therefore no idea about the quality of the translation. All translations from GA's book that are in the reports are mine.

My apologies, its the same book, under different title.

Complete English translation of L'Enquête Interdite - 'The Forbidden Investigation' - the French language version of 'The Truth about The Lie'
 
3/05/2009
 
Maddie, The Forbidden Investigation: Revelations of the Portuguese Coordinator in charge of the investigation
 
Gonçalo Amaral
 
Isbn: 9782849411254
 
SODIS code: 724523.5

Now do you believe they read it?
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Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #40 on: September 26, 2013, 08:18:52 PM »
That might be true. And Luz seems to confirm, as she says the book was translated in January 2010 (after being published in French, the language it was translated from, in May 2009).
Up to the injunction, there were proceedings (imo) to have the book published in the UK.
That doesn't explain though how Mr Pike, Mr Wright and Mr and Mrs McCann, among possible others, read the book in 2008 or 2009.

They didn't, Mr. Wright made that up.
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Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #41 on: September 26, 2013, 08:20:15 PM »
Seems odd, don't you think, why would Anna esse translate his second book on 3/05/2009, before the first one.

Who translated it from Portuguese, to French. I would have thought it was written in Portuguese.

An accredited translator from the Editors, either the french or the portuguese.

The french version "L'Enquête Interdite" ( http://www.agoravox.fr/tribune-libre/article/maddie-l-enquete-interdite-65869 ) was published around February 2009, so for Anna Andress to translate it, it would take as many months as she did.
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Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #42 on: September 26, 2013, 08:33:11 PM »
there is no evidence the whole book was translated in August 2008 as far as I can see...unless someone can come up with it it makes Wrights statement false, doesnt it???

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Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #43 on: September 26, 2013, 08:44:54 PM »
A summary of the key points from 'The Truth of the Lie' 
 
This summary obviously cannot cover every single point raised in the book but it covers most of the main points
 
27 July 2008

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id137.html
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Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #44 on: September 26, 2013, 08:47:56 PM »
A summary of the key points from 'The Truth of the Lie' 
 
This summary obviously cannot cover every single point raised in the book but it covers most of the main points
 
27 July 2008

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id137.html

Nope, still doesnt constitute a book translation in august 2008 as WRIGHT ASERTED