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Offline Luz

Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #60 on: September 26, 2013, 10:20:16 PM »
Please explain what this has to do with the topic of this thread or please open a new thread to discuss the matter.

Everything. It is related to the french transcription of the book that only close to an year later was translated in english and released in the internet by our most appreciated Anna Andress.

Offline gilet

Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #61 on: September 26, 2013, 10:22:18 PM »
More crucial than your rich English, my poor English, you ignorance of Portuguese, my poor Portuguese, there's a simple issue : words have meanings, if you start twisting their meanings, no communication will ever occur. A translated book is a complete book. Extracts are selected parts of a book. Are you aware of that or do you only read the Reader's Digest ?


I have twisted no words. I have asked you to confirm the verbatim phrases which these witnesses spoke.

The problem is that we do not know what Pike's words or Wright's words actually were. Your report from notes and memory cannot be considered a 100% verbatim report can it?

So can you guarantee that those witnesses were not referring to translations from the book rather than translations of the book? That is the crucial point.

Unless your haphazard notes and now fading memory can guarantee that, then we simply don't know do we?

Offline Luz

Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #62 on: September 26, 2013, 10:24:26 PM »

I have twisted no words. I have asked you to confirm the verbatim phrases which these witnesses spoke.

The problem is that we do not know what Pike's words or Wright's words actually were. Your report from notes and memory cannot be considered a 100% verbatim report can it?

So can you guarantee that those witnesses were not referring to translations from the book rather than translations of the book? That is the crucial point.

Unless your haphazard notes and now fading memory can guarantee that, then we simply don't know do we?

Not my business, but you are making a fool of yourself.

Offline gilet

Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #63 on: September 26, 2013, 10:26:12 PM »
Everything. It is related to the french transcription of the book that only close to an year later was translated in english and released in the internet by our most appreciated Anna Andress.

It may or may not be relevant as we are not even sure that it was a full translation which was being discussed in the court and the title given to this thread retrospectively by Admin, does not in fact reflect that focus of the thread.

Offline gilet

Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #64 on: September 26, 2013, 10:27:12 PM »
Not my business, but you are making a fool of yourself.

How would you possibly know that unless you can furnish us with a verbatim transcript of what was said in court?

Can you?

If not, please don't be so abusive.

Offline Chinagirl

Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #65 on: September 27, 2013, 12:41:50 AM »
Why is everyone so adamant that the McCanns had to wait for an online translation of Amaral's book?  It could have been bought in Portugal, in Portuguese, the first day it was on sale and translated specifically for them by a professional translation service.

No need to wait for amateurs on the internet.
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Offline Luz

Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #66 on: September 27, 2013, 01:01:30 AM »
Why is everyone so adamant that the McCanns had to wait for an online translation of Amaral's book?  It could have been bought in Portugal, in Portuguese, the first day it was on sale and translated specifically for them by a professional translation service.

No need to wait for amateurs on the internet.

Yes. I guess Marinho Pinto could have done a nice photoshop of the book cover as he did with Leonor Cipriano's photos.

And as we say, by the cover you take the content, isn't it?!!!!

Offline sadie

Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #67 on: September 27, 2013, 01:06:06 AM »
Yes. I guess Marinho Pinto could have done a nice photoshop of the book cover as he did with Leonor Cipriano's photos.

And as we say, by the cover you take the content, isn't it?!!!!
Are you now libelling Marinho Pinto, Luz?

icabodcrane

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Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #68 on: September 27, 2013, 01:24:07 AM »
Why is everyone so adamant that the McCanns had to wait for an online translation of Amaral's book?  It could have been bought in Portugal, in Portuguese, the first day it was on sale and translated specifically for them by a professional translation service.

No need to wait for amateurs on the internet.

I think that is a very logical assumption ...  and is probably exactly what happened 

Why pretend otherwise though  ?   (  especially under oath  !  ) 

Offline Chinagirl

Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #69 on: September 27, 2013, 02:05:57 AM »
I think that is a very logical assumption ...  and is probably exactly what happened 

Why pretend otherwise though  ?   (  especially under oath  !  )

Who lied under oath?
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icabodcrane

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Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #70 on: September 27, 2013, 02:12:15 AM »
Who lied under oath?

Didn't Michael Wright say  ( in court  )  that  he forwarded a translated version of the book to McCanns,  that he had accessed on the internet  very soon after it had been published   ?   

Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #71 on: September 27, 2013, 02:13:04 AM »
Didn't Michael Wright say  ( in court  )  that  he forwarded a translated version of the book to McCanns,  that he had accessed on the internet  very soon after it had been published   ?

Yes, but it doesn't mean they read it...

icabodcrane

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Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #72 on: September 27, 2013, 02:19:58 AM »
Yes, but it doesn't mean they read it...

Well,  then we start going into  Judge Judy territory again 

"If it doesn't make sense,  it probably isn't true" 

...  and it doesn't make sense that Kate and Gerry McCann would not read what Amaral had written about them  as soon as they had the chance   ...  does it  ?

Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #73 on: September 27, 2013, 02:25:16 AM »
Well,  then we start going into  Judge Judy territory again 

"If it doesn't make sense,  it probably isn't true" 

...  and it doesn't make sense that Kate and Gerry McCann would not read what Amaral had written about them  as soon as they had the chance   ...  does it  ?

No, but didn't Gerry say they had better things to do than read the book?

icabodcrane

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Re: So when was the first translation of the Amaral book available?
« Reply #74 on: September 27, 2013, 02:27:35 AM »
No, but didn't Gerry say they had better things to do than read the book?

Do you believe that  ?