Surely the Amaral book "The Truth of the Lie" helped the search for Madeleine?

[Angelo222]

For four days we have witnessed the events in Lisbon gradually unfold to reveal the great Duarte masterplan to relieve Amaral and others of a cool £1million.   The cat is out of the bag, its all to play for, the game plan has been laid bare.  It is very clear that the aim for camp McCann is to persuade the honourable judge that the Amaral book destroyed any chances there ever was of finding Madeleine.

I fail to understand how this could be??  We were told that prior to the launch of the Amaral book and documentary that the search for Madeleine had tapered off.  According to witnesses the McCanns were beginning to get their life together when on the launch of the book all hell let loose.

My question to everyone therefore is, surely the book rekindled interest in the case and in a way that the McCanns couldn't hope to create themselves?  Surely the very successful book got people talking and thinking about Madeleine?  Even if the conclusion in the book was that she was most probably dead surely they still had to find her?

Far from destroying the search the book encouraged it!!

[Sherlock Holmes]

For four days we have witnessed the events in Lisbon gradually unfold to reveal the great Duarte masterplan to relieve Amaral and others of a cool £1million.   The cat is out of the bag, its all to play for, the game plan has been laid bare.  It is very clear that the aim for camp McCann is to persuade the honourable judge that the Amaral book destroyed any chances there ever was of finding Madeleine.

I fail to understand how this could be??  We were told that prior to the launch of the Amaral book and documentary that the search for Madeleine had tapered off.  According to witnesses the McCanns were beginning to get their life together when on the launch of the book all hell let loose.

My question to everyone therefore is, surely the book rekindled interest in the case and in a way that the McCanns couldn't hope to create themselves?  Surely the very successful book got people talking and thinking about Madeleine?  Even if the conclusion in the book was that she was most probably dead surely they still had to find her?

Far from destroying the search the book encouraged it!!

Agree 100%

[Sherlock Holmes]

The Bigger question is, are you the promoting /advertising this forum at the detriment of Madeleine?

Stellar question, Neeley.

Truth is all of us on here have a responsibility.

I don't know if this point has been made before on this forum, but it is an important one, that collectively probably all of us here are making a meaningful contribution to the welfare of children in general, by being more aware of the dangers posed to children left unattended, and in appreciating our own children even more than we would do if we were not so caught up with tragedies like this one.

It is probably true to say that many, many thousands of parents across the world have also become significantly more diligent over their children as a result of this case. Losing a child is a primal fear, which must be one of the driving motivations in being interested in a case like this - the fear that it could have been us. Hence our subliminal readiness to criticise the McCanns - for allowing the unthinkable to touch us.

It is an enormous tragedy that Madeleine had to be the sacrificial lamb in this lesson, but perhaps this is God's way of reinforcing the fact that we have to be as careful as we can with our children at all times and never leave them unattended or with someone we don't know very well. The lives of many children will have been protected and restored as a result of the knowledge that this case has brought to the attentions of the world - and for all the mistakes they've made,  I don't think the McCanns can be criticised for that.

[drummer]

 Even if the conclusion in the book was that she was most probably dead surely they still had to find her?

Far from destroying the search the book encouraged it!!

How many readers do you imagine would have the means to go searching for a dead body? Would the readers while out on their travels ever have the chance to come across a dead body and think oh that looks like Madeleine?

If only one reader was sure they had seen a live Madeleine but thought, "It can't be she's dead", that would be one too many.

I don't know how many copies of the book were sold but multiply that by how many friends, work colleagues, family etc the readers have informed. How many people read blogs, forums, facebook, newspapers, worldwide news etc They have all been informed Madeleine is dead.

How has this encouraged the search?

[Mr Gray]

For four days we have witnessed the events in Lisbon gradually unfold to reveal the great Duarte masterplan to relieve Amaral and others of a cool £1million.   The cat is out of the bag, its all to play for, the game plan has been laid bare.  It is very clear that the aim for camp McCann is to persuade the honourable judge that the Amaral book destroyed any chances there ever was of finding Madeleine.

I fail to understand how this could be??  We were told that prior to the launch of the Amaral book and documentary that the search for Madeleine had tapered off.  According to witnesses the McCanns were beginning to get their life together when on the launch of the book all hell let loose.

My question to everyone therefore is, surely the book rekindled interest in the case and in a way that the McCanns couldn't hope to create themselves?  Surely the very successful book got people talking and thinking about Madeleine?  Even if the conclusion in the book was that she was most probably dead surely they still had to find her?

Far from destroying the search the book encouraged it!!

if this thread had one oita of truth in it then amarals legal team would be using the argument...they are not

[Luz]

Stellar question, Neeley.

Truth is all of us on here have a responsibility.

I don't know if this point has been made before on this forum, but it is an important one, that collectively probably all of us here are making a meaningful contribution to the welfare of children in general, by being more aware of the dangers posed to children left unattended, and in appreciating our own children even more than we would do if we were not so caught up with tragedies like this one.

It is probably true to say that many, many thousands of parents across the world have also become significantly more diligent over their children as a result of this case. Losing a child is a primal fear, which must be one of the driving motivations in being interested in a case like this - the fear that it could have been us. Hence our subliminal readiness to criticise the McCanns - for allowing the unthinkable to touch us.

It is an enormous tragedy that Madeleine had to be the sacrificial lamb in this lesson, but perhaps this is God's way of reinforcing the fact that we have to be as careful as we can with our children at all times and never leave them unattended or with someone we don't know very well. The lives of many children will have been protected and restored as a result of the knowledge that this case has brought to the attentions of the world - and for all the mistakes they've made,  I don't think the McCanns can be criticised for that.

Well said, I totally agree with you, with a small exception.

Where I'm a critic of the McCann & Co, is that when trying to cover up for an eventual accident, they aggressively accused everyone else but themselves for what occurred with the little child. Had they been more humble and accepted their own faults, they would be a better help for every family and child in the world. So far they did nothing to help discover what happened to the little one, every measure they take is on their own behalf - just my opinion.

Amaral's book, as he explained when he wrote the Preface and when he presented it (which is confirmed by the Supreme Court, when they upheaveled the injunction for good), was meant to defend his honor that had been (and still is) blotched by the McCann's UK controlled Media, and to clarify what the investigation revealed about the disappearance of Madeleine.

Unfortunately, even though the Investigation files are out, and have been translated without any cost for anyone that wishes to consult them, the UK Press continues to follow the McCann PR directions, and many people choose to close their eyes to the real events.

Let's hope that some day people start to look more for Madeleine and less at Kate and Gerald campaign. That would be a true lesson for the world.

[John]

if this thread had one iota of truth in it then Amaral's legal team would be using the argument...they are not

How do you arrive at that conclusion Dave?   Dr Amaral's lawyer is yet to call any witnesses and if I were him I would be keeping my powder dry until that time.

There is little doubt that the Amaral book "The Truth about the Lie" or "The Truth of the Lie" depending on which translation you wish to believe, brought huge and vital awareness to the public.  The conclusion in the book might not be what the McCann family wanted to see but that is not the issue here.  The McCanns are not suing Gonçalo Amaral & Others because they damaged their own reputations (at least according to what we have seen in Court in Lisbon so far) they are suing because they claim the book hindered the search for Madeleine.

I find it difficult to understand how they can ever achieve this.  The Amaral book was sold in many countries throughout the world including Latin America. It brought Madeleine's image and the knowledge of the disappearance to thousands who might otherwise not have heard about it.  In reality, the book made people aware that there was a missing 3-year-old out there called Madeleine.  They might not have been looking for a live child if the conclusion in the book is to be believed but they were looking for her all the same.

[carlymichelle]

Well said, I totally agree with you, with a small exception.

Where I'm a critic of the McCann & Co, is that when trying to cover up for an eventual accident, they aggressively accused everyone else but themselves for what occurred with the little child. Had they been more humble and accepted their own faults, they would be a better help for every family and child in the world. So far they did nothing to help discover what happened to the little one, every measure they take is on their own behalf - just my opinion.

Amaral's book, as he explained when he wrote the Preface and when he presented it (which is confirmed by the Supreme Court, when they upheaveled the injunction for good), was meant to defend his honor that had been (and still is) blotched by the McCann's UK controlled Media, and to clarify what the investigation revealed about the disappearance of Madeleine.

Unfortunately, even though the Investigation files are out, and have been translated without any cost for anyone that wishes to consult them, the UK Press continues to follow the McCann PR directions, and many people choose to close their eyes to the real events.

Let's hope that some day people start to look more for Madeleine and less at Kate and Gerald campaign. That would be a true lesson for the world.

 


well said as always luz it was never about maddie was it it was about the mcanns saving face

[ferryman]

The essence of the message of truth of the lie is that Madeleine is dead and Kate and Gerry both caused her death and (with the help of their friends) covered up the fact of her death, then launched a fraudulent fund in their deceased daughter's name.

How does any of that help the search for Madeleine?

You could, perhaps, advance an argument that some people reading the book would see through (the truth of the lie) and that is undoubtedly true.

But there is a wealth of much more reliable material available that the same people are much more likely to have accessed, and which spells out that message explicitly.

Otherwise, the book (of *Amaral's) has done immeasurable damage to the search for Madeleine, by spelling out the canard that Kate, Gerry and (perhaps) their friends are 'guilty' of some sort of collective fraud.

They are not ...

*Edited to correct spelling.

[AnneGuedes]

The essence of the message of truth of the lie is that Madeleine is dead and Kate and Gerry both caused her death and (with the help of their friends) covered up the fact of her death, then launched a fraudulent fund in their deceased daughter's name.

How does any of that help the search for Madeleine?

You could, perhaps, advance an argument that some people reading the book would see through (the truth of the lie) and that is undoubtedly true.

But there is a wealth of much more reliable material available that the same people are much more likely to have accessed, and which spells out that message explicitly.

Otherwise, the book (of *Amaral's) has done immeasurable damage to the search for Madeleine, by spelling out the canard that Kate, Gerry and (perhaps) their friends are 'guilty' of some sort of collective fraud.

They are not ...

*Edited to correct spelling.

I appreciate very much the courage and tenacity of those who believe the McCanns, but as long as they are of good faith. Ferryman, your "essence" of GA's book is biased : it doesn't say that "Kate and Gerry both caused her death and (with the help of their friends) covered up the fact of her death, then launched a fraudulent fund in their deceased daughter's name."
The fund isn't a PT case anyhow.

[AnneGuedes]

The title "The truth of the lie" is a spectacular oxymoron, but I don't admire the book has been translated in French "L'enquête interdite" (the forbidden investigation) and in German "Die Wahrheit über die Lüge" (the truth about the lie), because it is what is actually pretended in this book.
The "truth of the lie" means something else and I must say that GA's book doesn't achieve that purpose. Could he now ?

[carlymichelle]

The essence of the message of truth of the lie is that Madeleine is dead and Kate and Gerry both caused her death and (with the help of their friends) covered up the fact of her death, then launched a fraudulent fund in their deceased daughter's name.

How does any of that help the search for Madeleine?

You could, perhaps, advance an argument that some people reading the book would see through (the truth of the lie) and that is undoubtedly true.

But there is a wealth of much more reliable material available that the same people are much more likely to have accessed, and which spells out that message explicitly.

Otherwise, the book (of *Amaral's) has done immeasurable damage to the search for Madeleine, by spelling out the canard that Kate, Gerry and (perhaps) their friends are 'guilty' of some sort of collective fraud.

They are not ...

*Edited to correct spelling.

but after  almost 7  years maddie  is likley dead i know it is hard to face but if she  truly was abducted at her age shewas   when she vanished she mos tlikley would not have suvived and imo it demeans maddie to think she is alive and unharmed with a  so called pedo almost  7 years later there is no easy way to    look   at this case either  she is alive  and most likley being  abused etc or she is dead

[AnneGuedes]

Truth is all of us on here have a responsibility.

Absolutely, but not only here ! And truth isn't as simple as an "unlie".. So, yes, it's a huge responsibility. That's also what dignifies us.

[carlymichelle]

Absolutely, but not only here ! And truth isn't as simple as an "unlie".. So, yes, it's a huge responsibility. That's also what dignifies us.

thats why  even though people have  been  critical with   us for our stance      we  continue for maddie

[Luz]

The essence of the message of truth of the lie is that Madeleine is dead and Kate and Gerry both caused her death and (with the help of their friends) covered up the fact of her death, then launched a fraudulent fund in their deceased daughter's name.

How does any of that help the search for Madeleine?

You could, perhaps, advance an argument that some people reading the book would see through (the truth of the lie) and that is undoubtedly true.

But there is a wealth of much more reliable material available that the same people are much more likely to have accessed, and which spells out that message explicitly.

Otherwise, the book (of *Amaral's) has done immeasurable damage to the search for Madeleine, by spelling out the canard that Kate, Gerry and (perhaps) their friends are 'guilty' of some sort of collective fraud.

They are not ...

*Edited to correct spelling.

Nowhere in the book it is said that the McCann or any of their friends caused the child's death. Just like in the files, and in the Archival Report from the AG, it is said that the child is most probably dead, and she may have died from an accident and the parents covered up that death.

Nevertheless, that didn't impede that lots of sightings and some foolish theories have been reported in the Press.

Neither did it interfere with the blackmail to David Cameron in order to approve a multimillion operation by a metropolitan police.

The argument that the book has hindered the search is bogus, in fact it is insulting when produced by people that confessed in an interview that they were too busy to physically search for their child.