Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?

[ferryman]

but the search dogs which were used on the May 4th followed her scent to the car park. Two dogs on the 4th and then two dogs on the 8th, all went the same way.


I am not sure about the scent in the flower bed, is it in files? was it tested for her DNA?

No they didn't.

The dogs deployed by the GNR (no doubt well trained, and with handlers immeasurably more competent than Grime) were unfortunately of the wrong discipline for the type of search required.

[AnneGuedes]

But Matthew Oldfield offered to do it in front of everyone. In front of the Dianne Webster too.

None of them said Mr Oldfield was asked or offered to go inside of 5A to make a visual check.

[VIXTE]

None of them said Mr Oldfield was asked or offered to go inside of 5A to make a visual check.

crime watch said it.

[AnneGuedes]

No they didn't.

The dogs deployed by the GNR (no doubt well trained, and with handlers immeasurably more competent than Grime)  were unfortunately of the wrong discipline for the type of search required.

They were exactly what was needed for a lost but alive little girl.

[AnneGuedes]

crime watch said it.

CW wasn't at the table, was it ?

[pathfinder73]

None of them said Mr Oldfield was asked or offered to go inside of 5A to make a visual check.

I thought Kate told him that the patio door was open?

[ferryman]

They were exactly what was needed for a lost but alive little girl.

No they weren't.

You just have to read the reports to see that.

The Portuguese handlers had aerial-scenting dogs.

[AnneGuedes]

Well they may have picked the last scent of her when she was alive and outside at 5.30pm.

Either they picked up the last scent of her when, after getting out though the main door, she followed the corridor and turned around the building, crossed Francisco GM and met someone on the public car park who put her in a car. Or they picked up the scent she left the day before in the morning, a scent that remained thanks to the walls' protection. In this case, she likely wasn't alive when she left the flat for the last time.

[AnneGuedes]

No they weren't.

You just have to read the reports to see that.

The Portuguese handlers had aerial-scenting dogs.

They do have these dogs too, Ferryman, but Rex was a tracker dog.

[AnneGuedes]

5A was the last place she was seen, so they would start from there. Can dogs determine which direction a scent is traveling in?

Yes.

[AnneGuedes]

no, because these dogs don't work like that. they work from the last place she was seen at.

And if we are to trust all of the info given in statements and files.. someone was in that apartment for a long period of time and that person took Madeleine out through the front door and to the car park.

this is saying, if nobody lied.

If she had been carried from the corridor to the car park, the dogs would have followed that track. If she was carried alive of course. Instead of that, Rex run forward up to the bottom of the corridor.

[pathfinder73]

After 17H30 they went to the apartment, the deponent having entered by the main door, which he did not lock while he was inside the residence. KATE and the children entered by the back door, after this had been opened from the inside by the deponent. (GM 10 May)

He went through the front door and the rest stayed out the back.

[Redblossom]

After 17H30 they went to the apartment, the deponent having entered by the main door, which he did not lock while he was inside the residence. KATE and the children entered by the back door, after this had been opened from the inside by the deponent. (GM 10 May)

He went through the front door and the rest stayed out the back?

Yes, easier to get three young kids indoors quicker than walking them all  around to the front door.....I dont see a problem with that....

[pathfinder73]

What were the twins in? Take a push chair up the back steps.

[ferryman]

Yes.

No.

You just have to read the GNR reports.

They had a debate about whether or not to give the dogs something of Madeleine's to sniff  -- a debate that would not have been necessary if they'd had tracker dogs, because tracker dogs can't work any other way.

Mark Harrison said in his report that the GNR deployed aerial scenting dogs.

Mark Harrison was right.