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Offline Kazcutt

Anything and everything
« on: November 07, 2013, 10:48:49 AM »
Anything and everything ????

Don't you just find you can be chatting about something regarding madeleines case or issues around madeleines case when you end up thinking about a news article or a Blogg from Kate/Gerry or a totally different case outside this case .

The same names that pop up ie Brian Kennedy or famous Brian Kennedy
Apartment hired by mccanns but owned by mccanns
Freemasons?? Craig castle ??
It's what keeps us going

lizzibif.

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Re: Anything and everything
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2013, 10:15:05 AM »
Was it ever established if there was a 10th tapas member..rumoured to be Gerry's uncle..who left Portugal that night over to spain ?

Offline jassi

Re: Anything and everything
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2013, 10:21:18 AM »
Was it ever established if there was a 10th tapas member..rumoured to be Gerry's uncle..who left Portugal that night over to spain ?

No. It was something that was mentioned fairly early on and then all went quiet and was never mentioned again. Like so many aspects of this case, the truth of the matter is obscured.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

lizzibif.

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Re: Anything and everything
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2013, 10:29:50 AM »
No. It was something that was mentioned fairly early on and then all went quiet and was never mentioned again. Like so many aspects of this case, the truth of the matter is obscured.


Its the myth's and made up rumour's by the joe blogs on the internet..that make this case confusing..and turn the public against madeleine's parents..its happened since day one..and of course the press haven't helped.

Offline jassi

Re: Anything and everything
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2013, 10:35:11 AM »

Its the myth's and made up rumour's by the joe blogs on the internet..that make this case confusing..and turn the public against madeleine's parents..its happened since day one..and of course the press haven't helped.

Having a glib PR machine hasn't help, either.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

lizzibif.

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Re: Anything and everything
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2013, 12:24:15 PM »
Having a glib PR machine hasn't help, either.

So would you of preferred that madeleine's distraught parents to do their own PR..people in certain situations need a spokes person.
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Offline jassi

Re: Anything and everything
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2013, 12:27:55 PM »
So would you of preferred that madeleine's distraught parents to do their PR..people in certain situations need a spokes person.

So some say, but I feel it has worked against them somewhat, particularly in the use of an ex political spin doctor.

I'm not sure why they needed any PR anyway. Others in similar situations haven't resorted to them.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

lizzibif.

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Re: Anything and everything
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2013, 12:32:59 PM »
So some say, but I feel it has worked against them somewhat, particularly in the use of an ex political spin doctor.

I'm not sure why they needed any PR anyway. Others in similar situations haven't resorted to them.


Are there any similar situations that you know of..that are as big as this investigation is..or that a cop with a criminal record in another childs missing case..or that have wrote a book for his own gain.?

Offline Benice

Re: Anything and everything
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2013, 12:35:59 PM »
So would you of preferred that madeleine's distraught parents to do their own PR..people in certain situations need a spokes person.

From memory  - I believe CM was originally brought in to deal with the massive press attention, which being completely alien territory the McCanns would have found difficult to deal with in any circumstances  - let alone in the first days following Madeleine's disappearance.  IMO
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Lyall

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Re: Anything and everything
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2013, 12:38:49 PM »

Its the myth's and made up rumour's by the joe blogs on the internet..that make this case confusing..and turn the public against madeleine's parents..its happened since day one..and of course the press haven't helped.

You have to consider why the problem still remains when not a single myth or rumour about Madeleine's parents has been printed by a UK newspaper in over five years.

Offline jassi

Re: Anything and everything
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2013, 12:40:40 PM »

Are there any similar situations that you know of..that are as big as this investigation is..or that a cop with a criminal record in another childs missing case..or that have wrote a book for his own gain.?

None of that was applicable when Mitchell first put in an appearance. It doesn't bother me that they have employed a PR machine - I just think it has not always worked in their favour.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Miro

Re: Anything and everything
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2013, 12:41:11 PM »
I think the PR would have come from an aspiring couple (nothing wrong with that) ; taking advice from those "above" them in society and on balance deeming it was the right professional thing to do...........

I don't think it worked in their favour at all and is all part of that conundrum, are they calculating or misguided, are they naive are they incredibly smart.............. all making it very hard to read............


lizzibif.

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Re: Anything and everything
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2013, 12:43:25 PM »
From memory  - I believe CM was originally brought in to deal with the massive press attention, which being completely alien territory the McCanns would have found difficult to deal with in any circumstances  - let alone in the first days following Madeleine's disappearance.  IMO


Yes I agree benice..and with a hate campaign going on..the mcCanns needed a PR..some people just don't get it or understand..they just want to throw hurtful things at a poor distraught family.

Offline VIXTE

Re: Anything and everything
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2013, 01:23:27 PM »
IMO quite few decisions and quotes by Clarence Mitchell did not do either Madeleine or McCanns any favour.

The crowd on internet assumed Clarence Mitchell speech equals McCanns speech but IMO he was often too imprecise or too vague which added the room for many speculations.

stephen25000

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Re: Anything and everything
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2013, 01:25:51 PM »
Now how long was it before the PR machine went into full swing after Madeleine's disappearance ?