A new member's perception - but are these points true or false?

[Redblossom]

Not Icabod's avoidance of the truth- there is no evidence that Kate and Gerry McCann ever said the window was broken.

Throw enough [ censored word]hit and hope it will stick!

Icab didnt write that the window was broken, they wrote, someone broke in through the window.....and yes at least KM is on official police record via one of her relatives saying the blind had been forced....which means exactly what Icab was referring to....someone breaking in...as you dont need to force your way out from inside...so I see no avoidance of any truth here by Icab...

[Aiofe]

No, there's evidence. Or do you think that their own family and friends lied ? All those who spoke to the media had been individually called on the phone by the McCanns.
There's a whole thread here about this topic.
The rumour of abduction was only supported by the myth of the broken shutters. And everybody knows how rumours have a long life.

Please reference the evidence that the McCann's said that the window was broken.

[Mr Gray]

Icab didnt write that the window was broken, they wrote, someone broke in through the window.....and yes at least KM is on official police record via one of her relatives saying the blind had been forced....which means exactly what Icab was referring to....someone breaking in...as you dont need to force your way out from inside...so I see no avoidance of any truth here by Icab...

 If the blind had been forced up that does not necessarily indicate any damage...If you think of the police forcing a crowd back..that does not indicate damage

[Mr Gray]

Please reference the evidence that the McCann's said that the window was broken.

 Theres no evidence..a complete myth

[Redblossom]

If the blind had been forced up that does not necessarily indicate any damage...If you think of the police forcing a crowd back..that does not indicate damage

I was replying to Aiofes erroneous post....

[AnneGuedes]

Please reference the evidence that the McCann's said that the window was broken.

Kindly refer to the appropriate thread.

[AnneGuedes]

Theres no evidence..a complete myth

The newspapers reporting the friends and the family's claims about the broken shutters/window, in an obvious attempt to be as objective as possible, weren't all tabloids. Some of them rapidly mentioned in their articles John Hill saying there was no sign of breaking-in... But they put these 2 lines before the end of the article, a part readers read rarely.
Tabloids take care not to tell lies. They dress up facts, that's different.

[AnneGuedes]

IIRC The judge at the libel trial seems to think Amaral was in charge.  She describes TdA as his No. 2 - and Ricardo Paiva describes himself as subordinate to Amaral.    At least one of the witnesses describes Amaral as the person in charge (words to that effect) and was not challenged.   If any of that is wrong I am happy to be corrected.

IMO Someone on the ground had to be in charge of the case  - it stands to reason that someone in the team had to make the final decision on which direction it would be recommended that the investigation should go - otherwise if opinions differed and everyone was on a level footing  they would never get anywhere.   That's just common sense.

This is the MP's job, Benice. The team executes.

[John]

Please reference the evidence that the McCann's said that the window was broken.

The reference was to the shutter being forced, jemmied etc...

[ferryman]

For me, the key point is that Tavares Almeida, who wrote the interim report, and relied on slip-shod journalism as his source for the scurrilous accusation against Kate's father that Mr Healy "confirmed" Kate and Gerry used sedatives with the children (Mr Healey did no such thing!), said nothing about forced shutters.

And Almeida thought the McCanns were guilty.

[Wonderfulspam]

For me, the key point is that Tavares Almeida, who wrote the interim report, and relied on slip-shod journalism as his source for the scurrilous accusation against Kate's father that Mr Healy "confirmed" Kate and Gerry used sedatives with the children (Mr Healey did no such thing!), said nothing about forced shutters.

And Almeida thought the McCanns were guilty.

Brian Healy,  (Guardian 05 May 2007)

"Gerry told me when they went back the shutters to the room were broken, they were jemmied up and she was gone,"

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/may/05/world.topstories31

[AnneGuedes]

For me, the key point is that Tavares Almeida, who wrote the interim report, and relied on slip-shod journalism as his source for the scurrilous accusation against Kate's father that Mr Healy "confirmed" Kate and Gerry used sedatives with the children (Mr Healey did no such thing!), said nothing about forced shutters.

And Almeida thought the McCanns were guilty.

Of course TdA said nothing about forced shutters, Ferryman, this wasn't the narrative for the PJ, but for the family/friends who were 3000 km away. How could the PJ be offered an obviously erroneous claim ?
Now, for your peace of mind, I don't think that there was, behind the forced shutters narrative, an intention to have it released to the media by proxy (at least consciously).

[AnneGuedes]

Finding human blood is evidence that Madeline was hurt.

I guess you mean Madeleine's blood.

[ferryman]

Of course TdA said nothing about forced shutters, Ferryman, this wasn't the narrative for the PJ, but for the family/friends who were 3000 km away. How could the PJ be offered an obviously erroneous claim ?
Now, for your peace of mind, I don't think that there was, behind the forced shutters narrative, an intention to have it released to the media by proxy (at least consciously).

So why was scurrilous and unfounded accusations about "sedative use" part of the "narrative" as you put it?

[Aiofe]

Kindly refer to the appropriate thread.

Once again an inadequate reference. You just don't learn.