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Offline Eleanor

Re: Gonçalo Amaral said the Maddie-case has 'ruined' him
« Reply #60 on: January 09, 2014, 12:38:58 PM »
what i dont understand  steve  is why the pros   hate GA     so much if he had belived  maddie had been abducted they would have been all over  him is  the uk  so supresssed that it is  illegal to think for yourself??

If Amaral had done his job properly, and found Madeleine, we would all love him to bits.  While people like you would still be  screeching about abandonment and neglect.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Gonçalo Amaral said the Maddie-case has 'ruined' him
« Reply #61 on: January 09, 2014, 12:41:47 PM »
The rest of this article (behind a paywall) has been posted on another forum. The additional contents, referring to the Judge considering whether or not Madeleine can also be represented by the plaintiffs, and the expressed intention by Amaral's lawyer to appeal, are further indications, if any were needed, that Amaral has all but lost.

 So he is trying to squirm out of it by having the case threw out...his last throw of the dice....on the ward of court basis...well according to many very knowledgeable posters on this forum...amaral is way ahead

Offline jassi

Re: Gonçalo Amaral said the Maddie-case has 'ruined' him
« Reply #62 on: January 09, 2014, 12:42:28 PM »
so the investigation isn't looking for Maddie...with SY saying she may still be alive it seems they are

No. I don't thinks  - they won't find her amongst bits of paper -they are trying to identify a perpetrator.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Victoria

Re: Gonçalo Amaral said the Maddie-case has 'ruined' him
« Reply #63 on: January 09, 2014, 12:44:49 PM »
So he is trying to squirm out of it by having the case threw out...his last throw of the dice....on the ward of court basis...well according to many very knowledgeable posters on this forum...amaral is way ahead

I don't know whether he's trying to have the case thrown out or just limit his losses - if he can remove Madeleine from proceedings then presumably the damages awarded against him will also be less. Very much sounds as though he's resigned to losing but will appeal. In which case, a final resolution will be many years away. I don't know what will happen to his assets in the meantime.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Gonçalo Amaral said the Maddie-case has 'ruined' him
« Reply #64 on: January 09, 2014, 12:56:11 PM »
I don't know whether he's trying to have the case thrown out or just limit his losses - if he can remove Madeleine from proceedings then presumably the damages awarded against him will also be less. Very much sounds as though he's resigned to losing but will appeal. In which case, a final resolution will be many years away. I don't know what will happen to his assets in the meantime.

I think the verdict is pretty clear now and he will lose...that will send a message that he was wrong to write the book and will help restore the Mccanns reputation that he has tarnished. He can and will appeal but I expect his assets will remain frozen

Offline Victoria

Re: Gonçalo Amaral said the Maddie-case has 'ruined' him
« Reply #65 on: January 09, 2014, 01:16:23 PM »
I think the verdict is pretty clear now and he will lose...that will send a message that he was wrong to write the book and will help restore the Mccanns reputation that he has tarnished. He can and will appeal but I expect his assets will remain frozen

Yes, I agree the verdict is pretty clear. If there were signs the decision was going to be in Amaral's favour, certain people would be shouting it from the rooftops about now. As it is, there are a few notable absences. Perhaps they're just in mourning for Eusibio.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Gonçalo Amaral said the Maddie-case has 'ruined' him
« Reply #66 on: January 09, 2014, 01:18:15 PM »

According to certain vociferous voices, Madeleine had already been removed from the list of Plaintiffs.  So they must be wrong then.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Gonçalo Amaral said the Maddie-case has 'ruined' him
« Reply #67 on: January 09, 2014, 01:20:30 PM »
I think the verdict is pretty clear now and he will lose...that will send a message that he was wrong to write the book and will help restore the Mccanns reputation that he has tarnished. He can and will appeal but I expect his assets will remain frozen

his assets will remain frozen and hopefully none of them will leak out into the boot of his mercedes.
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stephen25000

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Re: Gonçalo Amaral said the Maddie-case has 'ruined' him
« Reply #68 on: January 09, 2014, 01:41:43 PM »
well i have read many portugese people searched for maddie but not the mcanns

Too true.
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Re: Gonçalo Amaral said the Maddie-case has 'ruined' him
« Reply #69 on: January 09, 2014, 01:42:40 PM »
me , kate and Gerry of course

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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Gonçalo Amaral said the Maddie-case has 'ruined' him
« Reply #70 on: January 09, 2014, 01:44:27 PM »
Amaral was after the right man i.e. Smithman when he was removed from the case. SY seem to be on the right track with the efits shown on CW. The press are just being fed fodder to keep them off the trail. Amaral may yet have his day.

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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Estuarine

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Re: Gonçalo Amaral said the Maddie-case has 'ruined' him
« Reply #71 on: January 09, 2014, 02:00:06 PM »
Amaral was after the right man i.e. Smithman when he was removed from the case. SY seem to be on the right track with the efits shown on CW. The press are just being fed fodder to keep them off the trail. Amaral may yet have his day.

"I know the truth and God knows the truth. Nothing else matters." (KM)


I tend to agree with the principle if not all of the detail of your post.  "Barrack-room lawyers" notwithstanding I suspect only the judge has a clear idea which way it will go. The press will print any old blx to sell copy usually with the caveat "a source close to"

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Gonçalo Amaral said the Maddie-case has 'ruined' him
« Reply #72 on: January 09, 2014, 02:10:01 PM »

I tend to agree with the principle if not all of the detail of your post.  "Barrack-room lawyers" notwithstanding I suspect only the judge has a clear idea which way it will go. The press will print any old blx to sell copy usually with the caveat "a source close to"

 I think there is enough information.in the public domain now to give us a good indication about how this case is heading...this article was not from a source but directly from amaral...pictures too... I'm not just basing my views on this one article

Cariad

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Re: Gonçalo Amaral said the Maddie-case has 'ruined' him
« Reply #73 on: January 09, 2014, 02:23:22 PM »
I think the verdict is pretty clear now and he will lose...that will send a message that he was wrong to write the book and will help restore the Mccanns reputation that he has tarnished. He can and will appeal but I expect his assets will remain frozen

IF It's Dr Amaral's lawyers who have submitted last minute papers as Jerry Lawton tweeted and if those papers are arguing that the Mccanns should not be able to represent Madeleine as she is a ward of court, then I have to admit that he must believe that he's facing defeat.

If he loses, my conviction that he would win will be a great example of confirmation bias in action.

The fat lady hasn't sung yet though.

Redblossom

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Re: Gonçalo Amaral said the Maddie-case has 'ruined' him
« Reply #74 on: January 09, 2014, 02:28:15 PM »
IF It's Dr Amaral's lawyers who have submitted last minute papers as Jerry Lawton tweeted and if those papers are arguing that the Mccanns should not be able to represent Madeleine as she is a ward of court, then I have to admit that he must believe that he's facing defeat.

If he loses, my conviction that he would win will be a great example of confirmation bias in action.

The fat lady hasn't sung yet though.

I dont  agree necessarily, filing last minute stuff...how can one know if its not "supporting" rather than in "desperation" if you see what I mean

As for the fat lady, I agree.....but that only happens right at the end.....


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Too many assumptions predictions and counting chickens going on here imo...ooh

eta if the mccanns win or lose I think it will be bad publicity for them either way....thats why the whole exercise was a disaster from the start....IMO




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