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Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Gonçalo Amaral said the Maddie-case has 'ruined' him
« Reply #105 on: January 10, 2014, 07:57:20 AM »
I would very much agree that Gonçalo didn't put everything in the book.  I wouldn't be surprised if he has something up his sleeve even now...just for that rainy day?

Do you really think that John?  What sort of thing? 

Because if it was something directly relevant to the case, this could be a bit difficult, to put it mildly. 

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Gonçalo Amaral said the Maddie-case has 'ruined' him
« Reply #106 on: January 10, 2014, 08:02:18 AM »
Do you really think that John?  What sort of thing? 

Because if it was something directly relevant to the case, this could be a bit difficult, to put it mildly.

The only thing up his sleeve is his arm

Cariad

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Re: Gonçalo Amaral said the Maddie-case has 'ruined' him
« Reply #107 on: January 10, 2014, 08:07:49 AM »
The only thing up his sleeve is his arm

If there ever was an ace up his sleeve, the time to use it has long gone. As I admitted in a previous post, any attempt to add new documentation now, unless it has just this moment come to light, reeks of desperation.

I still say that the case has gone his way though. It's only this last minute posturing that has made me think I could be mistaken about the outcome.

edit. Looks like my info is out of date, I've just read serendipity's post on the libel thread (which is probably where I should've posted this) and it transpires that it wasn't Dr Amaral delaying.....
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Offline John

Re: Gonçalo Amaral said the Maddie-case has 'ruined' him
« Reply #108 on: January 10, 2014, 08:54:32 AM »
Do you really think that John?  What sort of thing? 

Because if it was something directly relevant to the case, this could be a bit difficult, to put it mildly.

Speaking as a former officer I can reveal that many things are kept from the public so I am quite sure that Gonçalo has much in reserve.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: Gonçalo Amaral said the Maddie-case has 'ruined' him
« Reply #109 on: January 10, 2014, 08:56:23 AM »
The only thing up his sleeve is his arm

Don't be too sure Dave.    Gonçalo knows a lot more than he has put in his book for obvious reasons.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Cariad

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Re: Gonçalo Amaral said the Maddie-case has 'ruined' him
« Reply #110 on: January 10, 2014, 08:59:38 AM »
Don't be too sure Dave.    Gonçalo knows a lot more than he has put in his book for obvious reasons.

If he had further information, wouldn't it have been used by now? Either during the first investigation or now that the case has been reopened?

Offline lizzibif

Re: Gonçalo Amaral said the Maddie-case has 'ruined' him
« Reply #111 on: January 10, 2014, 09:16:20 AM »
Amarals ace ?

Imo his ace has long gone if he ever had one that is..If he did i think it was to get the McCann's and himself on the stand in court..And that's a epic fail now its been refused..it will never happen..jmo of course..

stephen25000

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Re: Gonçalo Amaral said the Maddie-case has 'ruined' him
« Reply #112 on: January 10, 2014, 09:34:07 AM »
Amarals ace ?

Imo his ace has long gone if he ever had one that is..If he did i think it was to get the McCann's and himself on the stand in court..And that's a epic fail now its been refused..it will never happen..jmo of course..

Rubbish.

It's the mccanns themselves who wanted to give evidence.

Unlike 'cuddle cat' that theory doesn't wash.

Offline lizzibif

Re: Gonçalo Amaral said the Maddie-case has 'ruined' him
« Reply #113 on: January 10, 2014, 09:45:07 AM »
Rubbish.

It's the mccanns themselves who wanted to give evidence.

Unlike 'cuddle cat' that theory doesn't wash.

its only my opinion rubbish it all you like..Amaral has always wanted the McCanns on the stand..

stephen25000

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Re: Gonçalo Amaral said the Maddie-case has 'ruined' him
« Reply #114 on: January 10, 2014, 09:53:01 AM »
its only my opinion rubbish it all you like..Amaral has always wanted the McCanns on the stand..

Your opinion.

Nujf said.

Personally speaking that's where they belong on the stand. 8)-)))
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Offline lizzibif

Re: Gonçalo Amaral said the Maddie-case has 'ruined' him
« Reply #115 on: January 10, 2014, 09:59:38 AM »
Your opinion.

Nujf said.

Personally speaking that;s where they belong on the stand. 8)-)))

It will never happen  8)-)))

stephen25000

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Re: Gonçalo Amaral said the Maddie-case has 'ruined' him
« Reply #116 on: January 10, 2014, 10:03:25 AM »
It will never happen  8)-)))

That's obvious.

They've escaped responsibility and justice for what they singularly failed to do.

Offline jassi

Re: Gonçalo Amaral said the Maddie-case has 'ruined' him
« Reply #117 on: January 10, 2014, 10:05:16 AM »
It will never happen  8)-)))

One should never say never. One day they may have to present evidence under oath - if a perpetrator is ever brought to justice, that is.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Gonçalo Amaral said the Maddie-case has 'ruined' him
« Reply #118 on: January 10, 2014, 10:49:26 AM »
Speaking as a former officer I can reveal that many things are kept from the public so I am quite sure that Gonçalo has much in reserve.

So you are of the opinion that Amaral has held something back?  His "Ace"?

Well, it is one of the features of the Portuguese penal code that everything pertinent to the investigation is placed in the public domain after the case has ended.  Generally it will be at the local police station, but in the McCann case, due to the extent of interest, DVD was used.   So anything he has held back would have to be something that his colleagues and the public prosecutor are unaware - otherwise it would have been acted on by his successor, or would have been included in the files.

If Amaral has been keeping actual evidence or facts "in reserve", and in particular anything which could lead to Madeleines discovery or evidence of wrongdoing by any party, then I am not convinced it would do him much good for obvious reasons.  Witholding evidence, for a start. 




Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Gonçalo Amaral said the Maddie-case has 'ruined' him
« Reply #119 on: January 10, 2014, 10:58:21 AM »
So you are of the opinion that Amaral has held something back?  His "Ace"?

Well, it is one of the features of the Portuguese penal code that everything pertinent to the investigation is placed in the public domain after the case has ended.  Generally it will be at the local police station, but in the McCann case, due to the extent of interest, DVD was used.   So anything he has held back would have to be something that his colleagues and the public prosecutor are unaware - otherwise it would have been acted on by his successor, or would have been included in the files.

If Amaral has been keeping actual evidence or facts "in reserve", and in particular anything which could lead to Madeleines discovery or evidence of wrongdoing by any party, then I am not convinced it would do him much good for obvious reasons.  Witholding evidence, for a start. 





Well, it is one of the features of the Portuguese penal code that everything pertinent to the investigation is placed in the public domain after the case has ended.  Generally it will be at the local police station, but in the McCann case, due to the extent of interest, DVD was used.   So anything he has held back would have to be something that his colleagues and the public prosecutor are unaware - otherwise it would have been acted on by his successor, or would have been included in the files.



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