Gonçalo Amaral said the Maddie-case has 'ruined' him

[stephen25000]

Victoria agree with Gurdeep. 

Of course you do.

[Carana]

Interesting isn't it Lyall?

They didn't ever really investigate, you say. Strange given how they may have profited if they unearthed anything of interest.

I personally believe T9 have nothing to hide, but for the press to give them the benefit of the doubt given the way they normally operate seems unusual.

The press pack did seemingly swoop on Russell in Exeter expecting that he was about to be arrested back in September 07. As far as I remember due to a misinterpretation of phone data wafting out a window when PJ hacks just happened to be nearby.

The T7 may have appealed to the PCC.

[sadie]

It might depend on what the book is all about.  You simply cannot go around slagging off people for a few bob.

   

Some make a profession of it.

[Victoria]

The press pack did seemingly swoop on Russell in Exeter expecting that he was about to be arrested back in September 07. As far as I remember due to a misinterpretation of phone data wafting out a window when PJ hacks just happened to be nearby.

The T7 may have appealed to the PCC.

Russell received compensation from the press for the way they behaved towards him.

[jassi]

Russell received compensation from the press for the way they behaved towards him.

Was that as an individual, or part of the larger group that posed on the steps outside of some court?

[Victoria]

Was that as an individual, or part of the larger group that posed on the steps outside of some court?

It was one action, but Russell got special mention in the printed apology, and I believe a larger compensation award.

[Sherlock Holmes]

You mean all nine have nothing to hide, SH, or do you mean the seven?

All nine. Completely innocent of any crime.

Misguided in their handling of things at times - but innocent.

[Lyall]

All nine. Completely innocent of any crime.

Misguided in their handling of things at times - but innocent.

At times >@@(*&) Would one of those times be the night of the disappearance?

[Sherlock Holmes]

At times >@@(*&) Would one of those times be the night of the disappearance?

No. Mishandling things on the night of the disappearance would probably have entailed criminal guilt (covering something serious up; giving misleading information to police, etc.).

I am not a fan of aspects of the McCanns' media campaign - only because I believe certain of their own decisions go against their best interests - and I believe the recent libel trial has been badly prepared.

But I see no evidence for any criminal involvement whatsoever.

[Lyall]

No. Mishandling things on the night of the disappearance would probably have entailed criminal guilt (covering something serious up; giving misleading information to police, etc.).

I am not a fan of aspects of the McCanns' media campaign - only because I believe certain of their own decisions go against their best interests - and I believe the recent libel trial has been badly prepared.

But I see no evidence for any criminal involvement whatsoever.

Their best interests or Madeleine's best interest? Do you think they always acted selflessly?

[Sherlock Holmes]

Their best interests or Madeleine's best interest? Do you think they always acted selflessly?

It's a good point.

The way I see it is that, presuming the McCanns' innocence, their own best interests are one and the same with their daughter's, namely for parents and child to be reunited, and / or to learn what has happened and restore as much dignity and justice as is possible in the circumstances.

Even though I believe they made mistakes in their campaign, I don't believe these were the result of any conflict they may have had with their daughter's interest. They made mistakes simply because they made wrong decisions or were ill advised.

Only if they were guilty of something sinister could their actions be said to be at odds with attempting to benefit their daughter.

[icabodcrane]

It's a good point.

The way I see it is that, presuming the McCanns' innocence, their own best interests are one and the same with their daughter's, namely for parents and child to be reunited, and / or to learn what has happened and restore as much dignity and justice as is possible in the circumstances.

Even though I believe they made mistakes in their campaign, I don't believe these were the result of any conflict they may have had with their daughter's interest. They made mistakes simply because they made wrong decisions or were ill advised.

Only if they were guilty of something sinister could their actions be said to be at odds with attempting to benefit their daughter.

I would say that keeping  the Smith  e fits from the public  for years was most certainly at odds with trying to benefit their daughter

[Sherlock Holmes]

I would say that keeping  the Smith  e fits from the public  for years was most certainly at odds with trying to benefit their daughter

I suppose so, icoabod.  But was that selfishness (to go back to Lyall's point) or just a misjudgement? Hard to say?

And not to invalidate the exercise of examining the e-fit saga, I don't think the e-fits going to be much use for anything anyway. One look at the 'pair' of them will tell you that. I could easily be proven wrong, however - and hope to be so.

[icabodcrane]

I suppose so, icoabod.  But was that selfishness (to go back to Lyall's point) or just a misjudgement? Hard to say?

And not to invalidate the exercise of examining the e-fit saga, I don't think the e-fits going to be much use for anything anyway. One look at the 'pair' of them will tell you that. I could easily be proven wrong, however - and hope to be so.

No Sherlock,  the decision to withhold those e fits from the public  cannot be  minimised like that

If Madeleine  was still alive,  then her life  may have depended on it

If the McCanns actions were never directly at odds with Madeleine's best interests,  as you suggest,  then the decision to keep those e fits out of the public domain is simply inexplicable

[Wonderfulspam]

I don't think the e-fits going to be much use for anything anyway. One look at the 'pair' of them will tell you that.

No Sherlock,  the decision to withhold those e fits from the public  cannot be  minimised like that

If Madeleine  was still alive,  then her life  may have depended on it

If the McCanns actions were never directly at odds with Madeleine's best interests,  as you suggest,  then the decision to keep those e fits out of the public domain is simply inexplicable

If Madeleine  was still alive,  then her life  may have depended on it.

Couldn't agree more.