The Real Jeremy Bamber

[APRIL]

A bonus from OCP which AE received but JB didn't.  AE and JB had the same shareholding and the same role and responsibilities. 

I seem to recall many of the female employee/agents at BBC were up in arms, rightly so, that they were being paid less than their male counterparts for carrying out the same work.

Perfectly possible that June didn't consider him to be pulling his weight.

[Nicholas]

I have indeed researched it, yes.

Without wishing to bore (my posts are long, I know), but when men suppress their gay leanings, often due to their family’s reaction — or their own misguided shame — they attempt to control their urges by sleeping with women and becoming promiscuous because the sex isn’t gratifying for them. There are, obviously, promiscuous heterosexual men, but Jeremy doesn’t fall into that camp because he’s admitted to secret gay relationships.

Some secretly gay men will be attracted to careers which are typically masculine, such as the police force, army, airforce, truck driving...manly things. That’s why people are often shocked when a seemingly happily married man with children who always seemed masculine declares to his wife he’s gay.

Back to Jeremy Bamber, I’ve read a huge amount of accounts where many different people have said he was EXTREMELY promiscuous. He was known to trawl the local bars and pick up one-nights stands, and he also cheated on his girlfriends, including Julie. I’m surprised you don’t know that?

Did Bamber suffer from any ‘sexual dysfunction’ ?

Labels aside, could the reason why he was promiscuous be related to this in anyway?

Has this been explored before and has he ever discussed this with any of his supporters, fellow inmates or the ‘professional & compassionate’ prison officers or the numerous psychologists he’s allegedly meant to have seen over the years?

or

Did he just like to dominate and enjoy the power and control he felt over his conquests, regardless of whether they were male & female and was he ever faithful to any of them?

[Nicholas]

Back to Jeremy Bamber, I’ve read a huge amount of accounts where many different people have said he was EXTREMELY promiscuous.

Wonder whether his psyche reports are reflective of this ?

Was Aunt Agatha or anyone else ever seen or spoken to by one of the prison psychologists to get their lowdown on Bamber?

What about his sexual partners prior to prison or have the psychiatrists and psychologists since relied on Bamber’s self reports?

[Caroline]

A bonus from OCP which AE received but JB didn't.  AE and JB had the same shareholding and the same role and responsibilities. 

I seem to recall many of the female employee/agents at BBC were up in arms, rightly so, that they were being paid less than their male counterparts for carrying out the same work.

Because Ann probably earned it.

[G-Unit]

A bonus from OCP which AE received but JB didn't.  AE and JB had the same shareholding and the same role and responsibilities. 

I seem to recall many of the female employee/agents at BBC were up in arms, rightly so, that they were being paid less than their male counterparts for carrying out the same work.

Pamela and June both received dividends from Osea Road. Pamela gave half of hers to Ann Eaton and June used hers to support Sheila; paying her bills and buying her food, despite her disapproval of Sheila's lifestyle. According to Robert Boutflour she turned down Jeremy's request for more, however, because she thought he didn't live properly. [CAL page 80]

[APRIL]

Pamela and June both received dividends from Osea Road. Pamela gave half of hers to Ann Eaton and June used hers to support Sheila; paying her bills and buying her food, despite her disapproval of Sheila's lifestyle. According to Robert Boutflour she turned down Jeremy's request for more, however, because she thought he didn't live properly. [CAL page 80]

It's always been my understanding that Ann was a grafter. I guess she earned her bonus. Jeremy has been described as being skiver who put more effort into appearing to be doing something, than actually doing it.

[G-Unit]

It's always been my understanding that Ann was a grafter. I guess she earned her bonus. Jeremy has been described as being skiver who put more effort into appearing to be doing something, than actually doing it.

Was it a 'bonus' or a necessary boost to the Eaton's income? Who described Jeremy as a 'skiver'? The one person who didn't work is Sheila; she couldn't even hold down a cleaning job.

[Holly Goodhead]

It's always been my understanding that Ann was a grafter. I guess she earned her bonus. Jeremy has been described as being skiver who put more effort into appearing to be doing something, than actually doing it.

Who described JB in such terms?  Please provide a cite/source.

At one time  JB was working at WHF And working at Sloppy Joe's. 

According to chartered surveyor George Nicholls, NB told him he was pleased with hw JB was shaping up as a farmer.  Why would he say this if JB was as you've stated above?

[Holly Goodhead]

Perfectly possible that June didn't consider him to be pulling his weight.

What evidence exists to suggest this?

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Jeremy had No gay relationships before his imprisonment.

During the period I knew him him, he did not fancy men, either as a bisexual or gay.

He told Julie that he’d had a gay relationship, Agatha.

Brett also said Jeremy had been in a gay relationship in New Zealand with one of his friends.

Other people spoke of how he kissed men passionately in nightclubs and openly flirted with men across a bar

Are you saying they’re all lying?

[Holly Goodhead]

He told Julie that he’d had a gay relationship, Agatha.

Brett also said Jeremy had been in a gay relationship in New Zealand with one of his friends.

Other people spoke of how he kissed men passionately in nightclubs and openly flirted with men across a bar

Are you saying they’re all lying?

Cits/sources please.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

More projections from her blog

“Away from almost everything else we have to keep in mind that we’re talking about the mid 1980s when understanding was comparatively close to non-existent and acceptance was even less. Within that, we can see just why Jeremy and Sheila’s parents did all they could to try and keep it in house.  A family’s business is its business, after all, and within an extremely small community in which everyone’s affairs were the subject of the idle chit-chat, you would be livid at the idea of your daughter’s struggle with schizophrenia being reduced to the “Ooooh did you hear” of the day.

As a race and as a country we are, even in 2013, embarrassed and scornful of things we don’t understand. If it’s beyond your comprehension, just take the piss out of it – that’s the British way. And unfortunately that was the way in 1985, too. Jeremy himself detailed to me in some pain about the fact that his family were at times seen as the funny farm – so to speak – of their local community; those loopy Bambers and their crazy daughter. That’s just how things were.

Out of sheer embarrassment, that is unfortunately why back at Jeremy’s trial, those who stood to benefit from his conviction – in whatever manner – helped paint the picture that Sheila’s mood was of calmness and sound mind in the hours and on the days surrounding the murders. Why, outside of their own little community bubble would they want to share what they saw as the shame of having someone 'like that' living among them? For a lot of them it was all about keeping up appearances - to not lose face, and out of selfishness and greed for some of them too.

This woman, Poppy seems disturbed.

She talks utter nonsense. And as if the locals would tell Jeremy to his face that they called the family “The Funny Farm”...that’s something HE’D say.

That goes against all the views from villagers who held the Bambers’ in high esteem (one even alluded to them as like “royalty”!)

And no-one outside knew that Sheila or June had ever suffered breakdowns or MH problems, as the family didn’t discuss their private business with outsiders.

Jeremy Bamber certainly attracts the nuts!

[APRIL]

What evidence exists to suggest this?

It's highly unlikely that any of those who became 'stars' in this tragedy, thought to state and clarify all their thoughts against the time when every detail of their lives would be scrutinized. However, being the mother she appeared to be, I imagine June to have been more than aware of her children's shortcomings. It therefore remains "perfectly possible that June didn't consider him to be pulling his weight".

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Brett speaks and everybody now believes him.  He ha slied in the past therefore he is an unreliable witness.

So has Jeremy

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Has JB lied?

I believe JB stole from the family firm as June was withholding payments until he 'learned to live properly'. This was no doubt her objection to him having sexual relationships outside of marriage.  He was 24 yoa and his income should not have been dependent on perfectly acceptable lifestyle choices.

Jeremy said the reason he burgled and stole the money was to show them security wasn’t tight 

Now YOU’RE saying he did it because June was withholding payments! What a ludicrous assumption — especially when it want true