Trauma Consultant Alan Pike testifies as to Kate's mental health after release of Amaral book.

[Wonderfulspam]

Suicidal thoughts are quite normal in Kates situation and not a sign of mental illness

So she wasn't depressed then?

[Mr Gray]

So she wasn't depressed then?

 depends what you mean by depressed

[stephen25000]

Suicidal thoughts are quite normal in Kates situation and not a sign of mental illness

How do you know ?

Are you a Doctor, Psychiatrist, or in the words of Doctor McCoy '.. a brick layer' ?

 

[Redblossom]

He isn't trained to care for someone's mental health. should he have believed Mrs Mccann to be suicidal, he should have referred he to someone qualified.

A psychiatrist spends six years in medical school, then specialises. That's why they can prescribe medication.

All the NLP in the world isn't going to affect the lack of serotonin in the brain of a clinically depressed person.

The writ actually said KM was in a deep and serious depression...according to who is unclear

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/27JULY9/MIRROR_12_07_09.htm

[Wonderfulspam]

depends what you mean by depressed

Pushed in like one of those tamper device things on top of crab paste jars.

[Mr Gray]

How do you know ?

Are you a Doctor, Psychiatrist, or in the words of Doctor McCoy '.. a brick layer' ?

 

 unlike you Stephen I make no claims as to what I do for a living

[icabodcrane]

Suicidal thoughts are quite normal in Kates situation and not a sign of mental illness

What a silly thing to say

Suicidal tendencies/thoughts are a sign of very serious mental illness and not even a GP would consider offering treatment until an urgent assessment had been been made by a psychiatrist ,  almost invarioubly after emergency  admittance to a  psychiatric unit

[Cariad]

depends what you mean by depressed

someone lacking serotonin or noradrenaline in their brain, leading to thoughts of desperation, despair or even suicide.

This can be caused by a stressful life event such as a death or divorce. It can also be spontaneous.

Depression is an illness that is outside of the 'normal' range of emotions. It's the differance  between a spot and acne, a mole and skin cancer.

Suggesting treating clinical depression with meditation is like suggesting someone treats a brain tumour with a foot massage. 

[Estuarine]

The writ actually said KM was in a deep and serious depression...according to who is unclear

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/27JULY9/MIRROR_12_07_09.htm

An abstract from the linked document

And it accuses Amaral of being a self-obsessed, manipulative money-grabber with no morals.

This should get a Nobel Prize for droll.

[ferryman]

What a silly thing to say

Suicidal tendencies/thoughts are a sign of very serious mental illness and not even a GP would consider offering treatment until an urgent assessment had been been made by a psychiatrist ,  almost invarioubly after emergency  admittance to a  psychiatric unit

To be affected by suicidal thoughts is a mental imbalance, often brought about by stressful external circumstances (such as having your daughter abducted) which can be temporary. 

Long-term and intractable mental illness is quite different, and what psychiatrists treat.

[Wonderfulspam]

The writ actually said KM was in a deep and serious depression...according to who is unclear

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/27JULY9/MIRROR_12_07_09.htm

They say they suffer 'permanent anxiety, insomnia, lack of appetite, irritability and an indefinable fear'. The writ also says Kate McCann is 'steeped in a deep and serious depression'.



It's a medically recognised kind of  deep & serious depression that only vast quantities of money can cure.

[Redblossom]

Many people at very low times in their lives with little support (something the mccanns had tonnes of)  have the thoughts cross their mind..?.many dont actually mean it...and doesnt seem to be the case here.>>>>>



MORGAN: Did either of you ever get suicidal?

K. MCCANN: No. I mean, I don't think I was ever suicidal but I often wished my life would be over. You know, I'd never had planned anything or done anything. I knew that wasn't a possibility, that wasn't an option. But, you know, so much pain. I used to think about, God, let's just pull the duvet over and I won't wake up tomorrow.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1105/11/pmt.01.html

So I agree if Pike was concerned at all he would have done something about it

[slartibartfast]

To be affected by suicidal thoughts is a mental imbalance, often brought about by stressful external circumstances (such as having your daughter abducted) which can be temporary. 

Long-term and intractable mental illness is quite different, and what psychiatrists treat.

The question was about depression, which if serious enough would be treated by a psychiatrist.
Psychologists are a different kettle of fish.

[Eleanor]

I find that valium, ssri's, a healthy diet, rigouros exercise & plenty of sexual intercourse tends to alliviate the syptoms of the lack of seretonin in my brain.

Unfortunateley I don't do enough of any of those things.

Eating small quantities of black grapes  every day does help.

What is Sexual Intercourse?  Nothing to do with Fanny's, hopefully.

[stephen25000]

The question was about depression, which if serious enough would be treated by a psychiatrist.
Psychologists are a different kettle of fish.

Now that is precisely the point.

It was rather like employing metardo3 to find Madeleine, a company who had no relevant experience, other than for industrial spying.