Author Topic: Trauma Consultant Alan Pike testifies as to Kate's mental health after release of Amaral book.  (Read 40545 times)

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Offline VIXTE

The Manchester Metropolitan University
BA (Hons) Social Science, Psychology


I have one question:
If he had a degree in psychology how come he is not a psychologyst?

Redblossom

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The Manchester Metropolitan University
BA (Hons) Social Science, Psychology


I have one question:
If he had a degree in psychology how come he is not a psychologyst?

He doesnt have a degree in psychology and even if he did , a first degree is not enough to practice as such, you need further studies....he never mentioned any either in his witness testimony in court, or his professional Linkedin account....anyway he said so himself that he isnt one.....

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Offline Mr Gray

He doesnt have a degree in psychology and even if he did , a first degree is not enough to practice as such, you need further studies....he said so hmself that he isnt one.....

 And no one on this forum knows if he has completed any further studies. Further studies will not necessarily mean further formal qualifications...Fact

Lyall

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And no one on this forum knows if he has completed any further studies. Further studies will not necessarily mean further formal qualifications...Fact

Did he have records from 2009 for the court?

Offline Mr Gray

Did he have records from 2009 for the court?

no idea ...but why is that important...amaral hasnt challenged his evidence

Lyall

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And no one on this forum knows if he has completed any further studies. Further studies will not necessarily mean further formal qualifications...Fact

Everytime someone shouts "Fact!" I reach for my machine gun 8(>((

Offline Mr Gray

Everytime someone shouts "Fact!" I reach for my machine gun 8(>((

ok 8(>((

icabodcrane

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no idea ...but why is that important...amaral hasnt challenged his evidence

The lawyer for the publishers,  Guerra & Paz,   challenged Alan Pike's professional credentials in  court  ..  and, thereby,  his authority   (  or,  more precisely,  his lack thereof   )  to speak on the matter of Kate McCann's mental health

It was a point well made

Offline Mr Gray

The lawyer for the publishers,  Guerra & Paz,   challenged Alan Pike's professional credentials in  court  ..  and, thereby,  his authority   (  or,  more precisely,  his lack thereof   )  to speak on the matter of Kate McCann's mental health

It was a point well made

 and what did the judge think of his testimony...facts please not your opinion

Offline Sherlock Holmes

A large number of people in the UK will experience suicidal thoughts each year, and many more will suffer from depression. A fraction of these will ever see a psychiatrist. I believe something like one in four people in the UK will experience mental illness (including anxiety and depression) at some point in their lives. Most of these who actually seek help will be unlikely to get further than their GP.

As for seeing a psychologist (not a psychiatrist), even on the NHS, a GP's referral for someone suffering with depression is likely to be to a therapist who the surgery knows and trusts, but most of the time this will not be a psychologist.

If someone reports depression to a GP, they would of course be asked whether they had suicidal thoughts, amongst other things. Importantly, having suicidal thoughts does not actually mean the person is a risk to themselves. Only in extreme cases would a healthcare professional take immediate action, and this would, if there was a genuine threat that the individual would kill themselves, involve sectioning them. An incredibly extreme option.

Kate McCann was provided with a trauma expert immediately by a third party (Mark Warner). She obviously built a good relationship with him because she kept using him. There was no need for her to be referred to a psychologist, a GP or a psychiatrist. If she had a good relationship with her therapist, why would she move onto a different one?

Indeed, Victoria. It makes sense that she would continue with the person with whom she had a good relationship.

I have been in the states for a while and perhaps I am being influenced by how things work here. People go to psychiatrists, psychologists, and other counselors very readily. This is arranged directly or via the person's medical insurance company as obviously there is no equivalent of the NHS.

I myself go to a psychologist, not for any serious problem, but simply to have someone with whom to discuss life events from a psychological point of view.

I still feel however that if she was truly suicidal then referring her to a psychologist expert in that area would be a prudent thing for any counselor of her's to advise.

Offline Sherlock Holmes

The Manchester Metropolitan University
BA (Hons) Social Science, Psychology


I have one question:
If he had a degree in psychology how come he is not a psychologyst?

A person with a law degree is not a lawyer. For that , they need to take a bar exam or go through some kind of internship post - university (depending on the country and legal system).  A doctor likewise has a period of residency.

icabodcrane

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and what did the judge think of his testimony...facts please not your opinion

I have no idea what the Judge made of it 

I was remarking on the  'fact'   that the lawyer for the publishers,   Guerra & Paz,  questioned Alan Pike's professional credentials in court and, thereby,  his authority to speak in a professional capacity as to Kate McCann's mental health   

That she made a very good job of it,  is,  indeed,  just my personal opinion
« Last Edit: January 12, 2014, 12:51:10 AM by icabodcrane »

Offline sadie

The mccann supporter mantra.

Attack the poster personally.

Your lack of logic in defense of these two  parents never ceases to amaze me and other posters.

Yes sadie, it isn't just me who can't comprehend your and your fellow supporters behaviour.
Oh, and by the way, Stephen, we are all waiting for your ideas on how the Mccanns managed to achieve what you seem to be pointing to.  We have been waiting for about 9 months now.  Why the delay?

icabodcrane

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Oh, and by the way, Stephen, we are all waiting for your ideas on how the Mccanns managed to achieve what you seem to be pointing to.  We have been waiting for about 9 months now.  Why the delay?

It is not appropriate for you to taunt a member of this forum in order to run back  to other forums you are affiliated to,  in order to ridicule them

If you do not respect this forum why do you post here  ?   

Lyall

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Oh, and by the way, Stephen, we are all waiting for your ideas on how the Mccanns managed to achieve what you seem to be pointing to.  We have been waiting for about 9 months now.  Why the delay?

If you've been waiting that long, a bit longer won't hurt you 8(0(*