Author Topic: Trauma Consultant Alan Pike testifies as to Kate's mental health after release of Amaral book.  (Read 40557 times)

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Offline Mr Gray

A person with a law degree is not a lawyer. For that , they need to take a bar exam or go through some kind of internship post - university (depending on the country and legal system).  A doctor likewise has a period of residency.
Are you assuming that Mr pike has had no further training?  The very fact that Kate and Garry chose to carry on being treated by him is a great testament to his talents...unless of course you  and  others on this forum know better...which it seems some think they do

Cariad

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Are you assuming that Mr pike has had no further training?  The very fact that Kate and Garry chose to carry on being treated by him is a great testament to his talents...unless of course you  and  others on this forum know better...which it seems some think they do

So following that logic, all the private investigators that the Mccans have used are the best in their field? Well, Kate and Gerry chose to use them!

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So following that logic, all the private investigators that the Mccans have used are the best in their field? Well, Kate and Gerry chose to use them!


Well let's face it, how dare we deny their brillinance. @)(++(*


Offline Mr Gray

So following that logic, all the private investigators that the Mccans have used are the best in their field? Well, Kate and Gerry chose to use them!

 No you are making an assumption...never said that..and if you cant see the diferrence theres no hope of you understanding anything

Cariad

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No you are making an assumption...never said that..and if you cant see the diferrence theres no hope of you understanding anything

Just dismissing me doesn't actually address the point I was making does it? Why don't you answer for all the other forum users or guest viewing this thread how aren't as stupid as me?

Offline Mr Gray

Just dismissing me doesn't actually address the point I was making does it? Why don't you answer for all the other forum users or guest viewing this thread how aren't as stupid as me?

 I didn't think the point needed addressing it is so obvious..but as you cant see it then I will..

THE McCanns are doctors...for medical help they know exactly who to go to...does that make any sense

Offline Mr Gray

When a person is depressed they visit a doctor. A doctor is trained in the treatment of depression...has some expertise..the doctor may refer you for speacialist treatment...the doctor is trained in who he should refer you to...

As far as I am aware doctors have no training in choosing which detectives to use when a child has disappeared

Offline Benice

So following that logic, all the private investigators that the Mccans have used are the best in their field? Well, Kate and Gerry chose to use them!

The McCanns didn't 'choose' anyone.  Alan Pike was brought in by M Warner.   It's quite obvious he was of immense help to them - and IIRC it was due to his counselling that they were able to begin to look at things more positively.

The McCanns would know nothing about Private Investigators and would have to take advice from others on that score  - which would inevitably involve a certain amount of  'trust' on their part that the advice was reliable.

They had no way of knowing what was going to happen in the future regarding PI's when they employed them.  How could they?

There is no comparison between the two IMO.   



   
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Cariad

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The McCanns didn't 'choose' anyone.  Alan Pike was brought in by M Warner.   It's quite obvious he was of immense help to them - and IIRC it was due to his counselling that they were able to begin to look at things more positively.

The McCanns would know nothing about Private Investigators and would have to take advice from others on that score  - which would inevitably involve a certain amount of  'trust' on their part that the advice was reliable.

They had no way of knowing what was going to happen in the future regarding PI's when they employed them.  How could they?

There is no comparison between the two IMO.   


So they chose neither Alan Pike nor their investigators and had to take both on trust, yet there is no comparison?


Offline Mr Gray

So they chose neither Alan Pike nor their investigators and had to take both on trust, yet there is no comparison?

 if you look at my post 167 I say they continued to use Pike...because he was so good no doubt..If you cant see the difference between the two then it does explain why you have everything so wrong
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Offline Benice

So they chose neither Alan Pike nor their investigators and had to take both on trust, yet there is no comparison?

There is no comparison between a trauma counsellor and Private Investigators IMO.    As there is no link - I can't see what there is to compare.

Alan Pike was chosen by MW - but as it happened he turned out to be the best choice for the McCanns.


The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline a.baker

Of course one could speculate that Mrs McCann's anxiety and 'suicidal thoughts' upon the release of Mr Amaral's book were due Mr Amaral's findings being close to the truth? Maybe?

Offline Lace

Of course one could speculate that Mrs McCann's anxiety and 'suicidal thoughts' upon the release of Mr Amaral's book were due Mr Amaral's findings being close to the truth? Maybe?

No I wouldn't.    I would put it down to the fact that Amaral put into words his own theory,   hinting that the McCann's drugged their daughter faked an abduction and disposed of her body.

It is different to being accused in private,   in a book it is being distributed to the public in different countries.   Written by the co-ordinator of the case,   a person they would regard as a truthful,   upstanding citizen.   

Who would they believe?   the parents?   who Amaral hinted had been in Portugal for swinging,  drunk to excess,  drugged their children to make them sleep?

How would you react if that had been you?
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Offline Wonderfulspam

No I wouldn't.    I would put it down to the fact that Amaral put into words his own theory,   hinting that the McCann's drugged their daughter faked an abduction and disposed of her body.

It is different to being accused in private,   in a book it is being distributed to the public in different countries.   Written by the co-ordinator of the case,   a person they would regard as a truthful,   upstanding citizen.   

Who would the believe?   the parents?   who Amaral hinted had been in Portugal for swinging,  drunk to excess,  drugged their children to make them sleep?

How would you react if that had been you?

It wouldn't happen to me because regardless of how much I beat my children, I never leave them unattended inside holiday apartments,.
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... I never leave them unattended inside holiday apartments,.


They were left attended at very regular intervals.