Is there any evidence at all which points to Madeleine being alive or dead?

[Wonderfulspam]

Yeh and where did the coconut come from in the first place ALL those many years ago lol...not the sort of thing you would buy in your local shop in the oldie days....

Do coconuts migrate?


  GUARD #1:  Halt!  Who goes there?
  ARTHUR:  It is I, Arthur, son of Uther Pendragon, from the castle
      of Camelot.  King of the Britons, defeator of the Saxons, sovereign
      of all England!
  GUARD #1:  Pull the other one!
  ARTHUR:  I am.  And this my trusty servant Patsy.
      We have ridden the length and breadth of the land in search of knights
      who will join me in my court of Camelot.  I must speak with your lord
      and master.
  GUARD #1:  What, ridden on a horse?
  ARTHUR:  Yes!
  GUARD #1:  You're using coconuts!
  ARTHUR:  What?
  GUARD #1:  You've got two empty halves of coconut and you're bangin'
      'em together.
  ARTHUR:  So?  We have ridden since the snows of winter covered this
      land, through the kingdom of Mercea, through--
  GUARD #1:  Where'd you get the coconut?
  ARTHUR:  We found them.
  GUARD #1:  Found them?  In Mercea?  The coconut's tropical!
  ARTHUR:  What do you mean?
ARTHUR:  The swallow may fly south with the sun or the house martin
      or the plumber may seek warmer climes in winter yet these are not
      strangers to our land.
  GUARD #1:  Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?
  ARTHUR:  Not at all, they could be carried.
  GUARD #1:  What -- a swallow carrying a coconut?
  ARTHUR:  It could grip it by the husk!
  GUARD #1:  It's not a question of where he grips it!  It's a simple
      question of weight ratios!  A five ounce bird could not carry a 1 pound
      coconut.
  ARTHUR:  Well, it doesn't matter.  Will you go and tell your master
      that Arthur from the Court of Camelot is here.
  GUARD #1:  Listen, in order to maintain air-speed velocity, a swallow
      needs to beat its wings 43 times every second, right?
  ARTHUR:  Please!
  GUARD #1:  Am I right?
  ARTHUR:  I'm not interested!
  GUARD #2:  It could be carried by an African swallow!
  GUARD #1:  Oh, yeah, an African swallow maybe, but not a European
      swallow, that's my point.
  GUARD #2:  Oh, yeah, I agree with that...
  ARTHUR:  Will you ask your master if he wants to join my court
      at Camelot?!
  GUARD #1:  But then of course African swallows are not migratory.
  GUARD #2:  Oh, yeah...
  GUARD #1:  So they couldn't bring a coconut back anyway...
      [clop clop]
  GUARD #2:  Wait a minute -- supposing two swallows carried it together?
  GUARD #1:  No, they'd have to have it on a line.
  GUARD #2:  Well, simple!  They'd just use a standard creeper!
  GUARD #1:  What, held under the dorsal guiding feathers?
  GUARD #2:  Well, why not?

[VIXTE]

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Yes sadly, as though she never existed.

The thing for me is also one has to look at the odds.

IF she was taken by a pedophile I would say the odds for still being alive would be about 2%.

I fear she is with the angels sadly. x

Would you think the same if this was your own daughter?

[Angelo222]

Would you think the same if this was your own daughter?

You have to be realistic and the chances of Madeleine being alive are next to none.

[sadie]

Contrary to what Sadie constantly attempts to persuade us there is no evidence whatsoever that Madeleine is alive or where she might now be. There hasn't been a single confirmed sighting of her in over 6 years.  Nobody has ever been interviewed who saw her after she disappeared.  No suspect of the many interviewed has ever admitted coming across her.  She has for all intents and purposes effectively vanished into thin air!!

So it appears

BUT I have done an in-depth investigation using a method that it seems no one else thought of.

Enough to say that I believe her still alive a couple of years ago... and if she has been kept for that long, it is unlikely that she is dead now.  It is difficult to kill anyone, but especially someone you have known for years.



It is up to you Angelo, if you wish to label Madeleine dead. 

I do not, cos I believe her still alive.  However I always know that I could be wrong.



Do you remember the recent report about a barrister attending a party in the UK where he talked with a friend who recounted being on a Mediterranean island and having met a man(also a friend IIRC) with Madeleine alongside him.

A meditteranean island  lines up precisely with my findings.



Spread the word that Madeleine is dead, if that is what rocks your boat, Angelo. 
And, in so doing, stop people reporting sightings of a child who is likely alive and findable. 


As outlined above ... it is my belief she likely is alive ... and also Scotland Yards, it seems.

[icabodcrane]

So it appears

BUT I have done an in-depth investigation using a method that it seems no one else thought of.

Enough to say that I believe her still alive a couple of years ago... and if she has been kept for that long, it is unlikely that she is dead now.  It is difficult to kill anyone, but especially someone you have known for years.



It is up to you Angelo, if you wish to label Madeleine dead. 

I do not, cos I believe her still alive.  However I always know that I could be wrong.



Do you remember the recent report about a barrister attending a party in the UK where he talked with a friend who recounted being on a Mediterranean island and having met a man(also a friend IIRC) with Madeleine alongside him.

A meditteranean island  lines up precisely with my findings.



Spread the word that Madeleine is dead, if that is what rocks your boat, Angelo. 
And, in so doing, stop people reporting sightings of a child who is likely alive and findable. 


As outlined above ... it is my belief she likely is alive ... and also Scotland Yards, it seems.

You keep talking about your  'in depth investigation'   and unique method  (  you mean using google earth,  don't you  ?  ) 

Yet when asked to elaborate on your  'investigation' you go all enigmatic and mysterious   ...  tapping your nose in an almost comical  "If I tell you I'll have to kill you"  sort of way 

If you  won't   disclose the 'findings'  you endlessly allude to,   then what, exactly,  is the point of  banging on about them all the time


It's daft

[sadie]

You keep talking about your  'in depth investigation'   and unique method  (  you mean using google earth,  don't you  ?  ) 

Yet when asked to elaborate on your  'investigation' you go all enigmatic and mysterious   ...  tapping your nose in an almost comical  "If I tell you I'll have to kill you"  sort of way 

If you  won't   disclose the 'findings'  you endlessly allude to,   then what, exactly,  is the point of  banging on about them all the time


It's daft

Sorry you feel that way, Icabod.

When someone / some peeps keep banging on about Madeleine being dead, do I not have the right to put my stance on the situation?

Banging on about her being dead with absolutely no proof.  And ignoring the (admittedly limited) sightings.  Even if she is legally labelled as dead in a few months time, that is just the legal side of things to tie up financial situations and for remarrying purposes.  No doubt similar things happened to several children that went missing, (Natasha Kampusch etc) but have recently  reappeared.

Because a child may be legally be declared dead, DOES NOT mean S/he is dead.  Please dont forget that

You well know the reasons why I cannot be specific

[icabodcrane]

Sorry you feel that way, Icabod.

When someone / some peeps keep banging on about Madeleine being dead, do I not have the right to put my stance on the situation?

Banging on about her being dead with absolutely no proof.  And ignoring the (admittedly limited) sightings.  Even if she is legally labelled as dead in a few months time, that is just the legal side of things to tie up financial situations and for remarrying purposes.  No doubt similar things happened to several children that went missing, (Natasha Kampusch etc) but have recently  reappeared.

Because a child may be legally be declared dead, DOES NOT mean S/he is dead.  Please dont forget that

You well know the reasons why I cannot be specific

No sadie,  I do not know why you cannot be specific

If you  'can't'  be specific then for heaven's sake stop with all the allusions to  'secret information'  you have uncovered

What is the point of that  ? 

[carlymichelle]

i dont now if  maddie is alive or dead but imo  by  saying maddie is alive and unharmed with abductors/s  demeans  maddie  either  alive or dead she is harmed imo by who nobody knows  but imo maddie  suffered either way

[Redblossom]

No sadie,  I do not know why you cannot be specific

If you  'can't'  be specific then for heaven's sake stop with all the allusions to  'secret information'  you have uncovered

What is the point of that  ?

Be fair, sadie has said its a very elite man who is multilingual and protected by a huge organisation and who was responsible for several abductions in the algarve over a few years.....and sy wil have latched onto him or be asking the three burglars they will soon arrest if they know something.....

Eta I just remembered Sadie say the Mchael Shrimpton report, you onow the respected barrister and expert in the spy world, was important...seems Sadie you forget hes been on radio saying Maddie was killed years ago after being abused because she would recognise this elite high ranking person

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