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Offline Victoria

Re: Mikaeel Kular > Three-year-old boy missing from a house in Edinburgh.
« Reply #375 on: January 17, 2014, 06:31:11 PM »
Before those, did they send tracker and trailer dogs ? As Angelo said, early in the morning the trail was fresh and yet uncorrupted. SH says she saw dog, but I didn't.

Yes, they used dogs. I don't think I've seen many reports that don't mention dogs, to be honest. I'm not sure what news reports Angelo has been watching/reading, but they obviously don't include Sky/BBC/Telegraph/Scotsman and the countless others I've seen.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Mikaeel Kular > Three-year-old boy missing from a house in Edinburgh.
« Reply #376 on: January 17, 2014, 06:32:32 PM »
'John Moses, a former Royal Military Policeman and detective, said the evidence in the case pointed towards a "professional abduction".'


Do professional abductors often take kids clothes when abducting them then?

Entering untraced a house occupied by 6 people?

Are we supposed to believe that.


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Offline VIXTE

Re: Mikaeel Kular > Three-year-old boy missing from a house in Edinburgh.
« Reply #377 on: January 17, 2014, 06:34:43 PM »
Before those, did they send tracker and trailer dogs ? As Angelo said, early in the morning the trail was fresh and yet uncorrupted. SH says she saw dog, but I didn't.

They have used the tracker dogs but haven't published the results.

They are not telling anything.. only mentioning things where the public can help them..

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Re: Mikaeel Kular > Three-year-old boy missing from a house in Edinburgh.
« Reply #378 on: January 17, 2014, 06:36:12 PM »
I fear it could be more sinister than a abduction..i sure hope not but theres something not right imo..

I have my doubts also.  Especially as it has been said that Mikaeel hadn't been back to nursery since Christmas break as he had bad cold that turned into a chest infection.  So who was the last person to see him apart from his direct family and when?
« Last Edit: January 17, 2014, 06:40:47 PM by CPN »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Mikaeel Kular > Three-year-old boy missing from a house in Edinburgh.
« Reply #379 on: January 17, 2014, 06:39:00 PM »
So an apartment block with  a locked communal entrance...then an appt which would presumably have a locked front door...then a child removed without waking anyone or being seen...makes an abduction of Maddie look simple...what does the father say?

Offline VIXTE

Re: Mikaeel Kular > Three-year-old boy missing from a house in Edinburgh.
« Reply #380 on: January 17, 2014, 06:39:07 PM »
I'm sorry to say that I believe we are looking at an abduction situation. It will be interesting to see where the public volunteers are directed to search tomorrow. It sounded from the ACC that although standard procedures had been put into place in terms of the sea port and airports, those aren't avenues they are particularly interested in.

Me too.. just been discussing it with my mum and before I said anything she mentioned the same things that were on my mind.

- The child haven't been to the nursery since Xmas! He was ill with a chest infection. And yet left overnight to sleep alone in the room, without being checked on? And his grandma is a doctor?
- What if the older child has accidentally hurt the younger child, how the mother would react?


Offline lizzibif

Re: Mikaeel Kular > Three-year-old boy missing from a house in Edinburgh.
« Reply #381 on: January 17, 2014, 06:39:24 PM »
I have my doubts also.  Especially as it has been said that Mikaeel hadn't been back to nursery since Christmas break as he had bad cold that turned into a chest infection.  So who was the last person to see him apart from is direct family and when?

That's what I was thinking..when was he last seen..ie by neighbours friends etc..all very strange isn't it..

Offline VIXTE

Re: Mikaeel Kular > Three-year-old boy missing from a house in Edinburgh.
« Reply #382 on: January 17, 2014, 06:41:11 PM »
That's what I was thinking..when was he last seen..ie by neighbours friends etc..all very strange isn't it..

The police has some kind of a timetable on this but they are not telling.. they said they cannot comment on this at this point..

Offline lizzibif

Re: Mikaeel Kular > Three-year-old boy missing from a house in Edinburgh.
« Reply #383 on: January 17, 2014, 06:45:39 PM »
The police has some kind of a timetable on this but they are not telling.. they said they cannot comment on this at this point..

yes they not saying much only that they still searching..which I must say its best not to say anything until they have something more concrete..

Offline VIXTE

Re: Mikaeel Kular > Three-year-old boy missing from a house in Edinburgh.
« Reply #384 on: January 17, 2014, 06:48:35 PM »
I found this on the US missing children board.. perfectly summed up of the last police news conference



When the senior officer appeared my heart was in my mouth, alas, no more info good or bad. Transcribed below.


Calling on continued community support.
Gravely concerned as now approaching 48 hours missing.
No confirmed sightings of Mikaeel.
Entirely possible that he left home of his own accord.
Entirely possible that he was subject to a criminal act.
Twin track investigations taking that into account.

Deployed specialist resources from Scotland, appropriately trained staff to offer community reassurances.

Plea for info. 0300 200 0200.

Mikaeel has not been back to nursery since before Christmas due to illness.
Confirmed M slept at home on Wednesday night (I think she meant he was put to bed).
Many lines of enquiries.
Slept alone, not sure which room.
Focused attention on areas M is known to frequent. Continuing to work with his mum/family as the search progresses.
number of CCTV cameres - unable to go into details.
Traced and spoken to all members of family.

Community support is paramount, extremely helpful and needs to continue.

Has M been seen since Xmas by others?
Last seen in the house on Wednesday night.
Plea for info of any sightings (dodged the question).
When was he seen prior to 9pm? Seen by others than mother?
Timeline going back but cannot go into it.

Not able to offer any detail as to whether M could be out of the country.

Examining every possibility.

Sighting reported of yesterday morning not confirmed, had excellent info from it but still need more.

M is a good communicator, friendly normal child.
Major investigation, still establishing the facts.
Unable to rule out any possibilities at the moment.
Contine to extend search, respond to info from public, continue to work with public in the locale to search for Mikaeel.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Mikaeel Kular > Three-year-old boy missing from a house in Edinburgh.
« Reply #385 on: January 17, 2014, 06:57:49 PM »
What about the CCTV footage at the door? What has been found?
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline jassi

Re: Mikaeel Kular > Three-year-old boy missing from a house in Edinburgh.
« Reply #386 on: January 17, 2014, 06:59:19 PM »
Undisclosed
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline VIXTE

Re: Mikaeel Kular > Three-year-old boy missing from a house in Edinburgh.
« Reply #387 on: January 17, 2014, 07:00:05 PM »
A very good info.. best so far! The back door to the building had a broken lock..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2541111/Police-continue-search-Edinburgh-toddler-Mikaeel-Kular.html#ixzz2qgQsyR1a

Offline Angelo222

Re: Mikaeel Kular > Three-year-old boy missing from a house in Edinburgh.
« Reply #388 on: January 17, 2014, 07:32:33 PM »
I managed to catch some footage from the search this morning and what strikes me is the silly distance they were sending people out to search.  An adult would be hard pushed to get that far never mind a toddler, all appears a bit over cooked.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Victoria

Re: Mikaeel Kular > Three-year-old boy missing from a house in Edinburgh.
« Reply #389 on: January 17, 2014, 07:34:40 PM »
A very good info.. best so far! The back door to the building had a broken lock..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2541111/Police-continue-search-Edinburgh-toddler-Mikaeel-Kular.html#ixzz2qgQsyR1a

If it's true that the lock was broken then that goes some way to explaining either how he got out or how someone else got in.