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Offline VIXTE

Re: Mikaeel Kular > Body found at aunt's home in Kirkcaldy, Fife.
« Reply #90 on: January 18, 2014, 06:17:25 PM »
Channel 4 news have just said that the mother must be charged with whatever charge it is or released by midnight tonight

This reminds me of Chris Jeffreys, the landlord in Joanna Yeates case.. he was also questioned for 24 hours.. but he was later released..

In this case I personally feel the mother might be charged..

CPN

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Re: Mikaeel Kular > Body found at aunt's home in Kirkcaldy, Fife.
« Reply #91 on: January 18, 2014, 06:20:25 PM »
This reminds me of Chris Jeffreys, the landlord in Joanna Yeates case.. he was also questioned for 24 hours.. but he was later released..

In this case I personally feel the mother might be charged..

Well, hopefully it means we should know more by midnight.  Although being charged does not necessarily mean guilty, of course

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Mikaeel Kular > Body found at aunt's home in Kirkcaldy, Fife.
« Reply #92 on: January 18, 2014, 06:21:51 PM »
He was sick, perhaps a serious pulmonary infection, his Mum found him dead in the morning, she might have been scared to lose her kids again and for a longer time to foster parents. Every hour  without alerting was bringing her closer to the no-return point.
ive already suggested this...natural causes with neglect

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Mikaeel Kular > Body found at aunt's home in Kirkcaldy, Fife.
« Reply #93 on: January 18, 2014, 06:24:49 PM »
But for whatever reason, parents do, and more frequently than thought - most recently http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2537211/BREAKING-NEWS-Woman-dead-two-children-suspected-murder-suicide.html

But so far, in this particular case, we know very little so cannot judge

 In these cases the parents usually kill all the children...not just one...and invariably kill or try to kill themselves


CPN

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Re: Mikaeel Kular > Body found at aunt's home in Kirkcaldy, Fife.
« Reply #95 on: January 18, 2014, 06:27:16 PM »
In these cases the parents usually kill all the children...not just one...and invariably kill or try to kill themselves

True; but if the reasons is taking against one particular child for some reason eg as in the Daniel Pelka case, it can happen to one child only

Offline John

Re: Mikaeel Kular > Body found at aunt's home in Kirkcaldy, Fife.
« Reply #96 on: January 18, 2014, 06:36:21 PM »
She obviously lied about Mikaeel's whereabouts, the not sleeping with the twin sister was a strong clue.  The autopsy will reveal the day he died which will determine the outcome of any charges against her or others.  The cost of the police exercise alone will undoubtedly be taken into account if conspiring to pervert the course of justice charges are eventually preferred.

Here is a reminder of her involvement with murdered Mohammed Abdi.



Boys mother Rosdeep Kular with Mohammed Abdi.

THE mother of missing Mikaeel Kular lost a friend last year in an alleged shooting incident in Edinburgh’s Willowbrae area.


Rosdeep Kular, 33, posted a picture of herself with Mohammed Abdi on a social media website the day after he died in the incident last April.

Neighbours say they had seen Mr Abdi, who was 25 when he died, visit Ms Kular’s flat in the Drylaw area of the capital.

One neighbour said: “It has been a long time since I last saw him, but I have definitely seen him with the mum.

While another said: “I saw him a couple of times but more with the kids than with the mum. I’m sure that he took the little ones to nursery too.”

Mr Abdi, whose father is an Imam at the Edinburgh Central Mosque, died on April 26 last year.

Six men deny killing Mr Abdi. Mohamud Mohamud, 30, Ahmed Ahmed, 28, Cadil Huseen, 22, Hussein Ali, 26, Liban Ahmed, 29, and Said Fadal, 32, appeared at the High Court in Glasgow earlier this month.

Mr Abdi was allegedly shot with a sub-machine pistol and a revolver.

www.scotsman.com/news/scotland/top-stories/mikaeel-kular-s-mother-lost-friend-in-shooting-1-3272716

« Last Edit: January 18, 2014, 06:44:24 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline jassi

Re: Mikaeel Kular > Body found at aunt's home in Kirkcaldy, Fife.
« Reply #97 on: January 18, 2014, 06:38:45 PM »
That looks a very dingy place with a low ceiling. I wonder where they were?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline John

Re: Mikaeel Kular > Body found at aunt's home in Kirkcaldy, Fife.
« Reply #98 on: January 18, 2014, 06:47:20 PM »
It is thanks to the formerly named Fife Constabulary that this case hasn't ended up another McCann mystery.  Just imagine if the body had not been discovered.

It will be interesting to know how Mikaeel was found.  Was it sheer luck, a find by a sniffer dog, someone informed or a family member or one of the other children spoke up?   Something sent Fife police to that wooded area, the question is what?
« Last Edit: January 18, 2014, 06:52:02 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

AnneGuedes

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Re: Mikaeel Kular > Body found at aunt's home in Kirkcaldy, Fife.
« Reply #99 on: January 18, 2014, 06:51:49 PM »
She obviously lied about Mikaeel's whereabouts, the not sleeping with the twin sister was a strong clue.  The autopsy will reveal the day he died which will determine the outcome of any charges against her or others.  The cost of the police exercise alone will undoubtedly be taken into account if conspiring to pervert the course of justice charges are eventually preferred.

After 3 days the determination of the time of death is difficult. The people who disposed of their beloved one's body don't realise that the police costs are enormous.

drummer

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Re: Mikaeel Kular > Body found at aunt's home in Kirkcaldy, Fife.
« Reply #100 on: January 18, 2014, 06:52:29 PM »
Police have removed the body of a young boy from woodland as they continue to question the mother of three-year-old Mikaeel Kular.

The discovery was made near her former home in Kirkcaldy, Fife, and announced by police just after 1am.

A post-mortem examination is understood to be taking place this evening in Edinburgh.

There were gasps from people outside Police Scotland's Edinburgh HQ as Assistant Chief Constable Malcolm Graham announced the body had been found shortly before midnight.

Police said they had detained one person - understood to be Mikaeel's 33-year-old mother Rosdeep - in connection with his disappearance.


http://news.sky.com/story/1197026/mikaeel-kular-mum-detained-as-body-removed




Offline Eleanor

Re: Mikaeel Kular > Body found at aunt's home in Kirkcaldy, Fife.
« Reply #101 on: January 18, 2014, 06:54:18 PM »
It is thanks to the formerly named Fife Constabulary that this case hasn't ended up another McCann mystery.  Just imagine if the body had not been discovered.

It will be interesting to know how Mikaeel was found.  Was it sheer luck, a find by a sniffer dog, someone informed or a family member or one of the other children spoke up?   Something sent Fife police to that wooded area, the question is what?

I think she confessed  and told them what she did with the body.  And now they are deciding whether to charge her with murder or manslaughter.

Just speculating.

AnneGuedes

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Re: Mikaeel Kular > Body found at aunt's home in Kirkcaldy, Fife.
« Reply #102 on: January 18, 2014, 06:56:50 PM »
It is thanks to the formerly named Fife Constabulary that this case hasn't ended up another McCann mystery. Just imagine if the body had not been discovered.

It will be interesting to know how Mikaeel was found.  Was it sheer luck, a find by a sniffer dog, someone informed or a family member or one of the other children spoke up?   Something sent Fife police to that wooded area, the question is what?
In this case the body had to be recovered for the simple reason that it was recoverable.
The trouble is when the body isn't recoverable, like after a cremation.

I wondered also what made them search in that woodland after it was dark.

Offline John

Re: Mikaeel Kular > Body found at aunt's home in Kirkcaldy, Fife.
« Reply #103 on: January 18, 2014, 06:57:01 PM »
After 3 days the determination of the time of death is difficult. The people who disposed of their beloved one's body don't realise that the police costs are enormous.

If a body is discovered several hours after death the temperature of the body and the signs of rigor mortis can indicate an approximate time of death.  If a body has been found after several days the presence of certain substances within the body will indicate an approximate day of death.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Mikaeel Kular > Body found at aunt's home in Kirkcaldy, Fife.
« Reply #104 on: January 18, 2014, 06:58:40 PM »
I think she confessed  and told them what she did with the body.  And now they are deciding whether to charge her with murder or manslaughter.

Just speculating.

Could be neither...could be lots of different things....was she involved with drugs..could a three year old find and swallow tablets