Little Moroccan girl Bushra Binhisa mistaken for Madeleine McCann revisited.

[sadie]

By the same token I've seen nothing in your hysterical rants of Madeleine and a dead Joana traipsing along a Moroccan road to convince me otherwise...

Have you taken the time to compare the proportions eye to nose and nose to lips, for Madeleine, for the little girl being carried .... and most importantly for Bushra against the photo of the little girl being carried?  Or cant you be bothered? 

Is Madeleines welfare important enough for you to check those simple proportions ... or cant you be bothered?


http://img.welt.de/img/vermischtes/crop101083848/8018727786-ci3x2l-w620/maddiee-DW-Vermischtes-ZINAT.jpg


http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/bouchra-benaissa-bouchra-benaissa-is-the-3-year-old-moroccan-girl-that-was-mistaken-for-madeleine-mccann-missing-4-year-old-b-14j4pM.jpg

Vertical proportions to measure:
Eyes to nose ... compared ... to nose to lip

Please compare Madeleines proportions to carried girls proportions .... then compare Bushras proportions to the carried girls proportions


 
The little girl being carried is NOT Bushra, but is remarkably like Madeleine.  Proportions all wrong for Bushra.  It is there before your eyes.



Now, if you care at all O.P. please make those obseravtions of proportions

 

[sadie]

@ Sadie, are you claiming that you are more cognisant of Madeleine's attributes than her parents, who are not promoting this sighting on any level ?

Pat, only today I have read that The Mccanns thought that the little girl could be Madeleine.  Today I have been reading about Bushra, Madeleine and Zinat and comparing images.   Dont ask me where I read it, but it was there in black and white, they thought that it could be Madeleine, but accepted the newspaper reporters photos as being bona fide. 

They were bona fide in as much as they showed Bushra on a womans back, but I maintain that the face of the little girl being carried is not Bushras face.  Have you given Madeleine a little time yet, by comparing those proportions?

Or are you dodging the issue?

[icabodcrane]

Pat, only today I have read that The Mccanns thought that the little girl could be Madeleine.  Today I have been reading about Bushra, Madeleine and Zinat and comparing images.   Dont ask me where I read it, but it was there in black and white, they thought that it could be Madeleine, but accepted the newspaper reporters photos as being bona fide. 

They were bona fide in as much as they showed Bushra on a womans back, but I maintain that the face of the little girl being carried is not Bushras face.  Have you given Madeleine a little time yet, by comparing those proportions?

Or are you dodging the issue?

You're the one dodging the issue

Opposing pat asked you if you felt you were better able to recognise Madeleine than her mum and dad 

Do you  ? 

[sadie]

You're the one dodging the issue

Opposing pat asked you if you felt you were better able to recognise Madeleine than her mum and dad 

Do you  ?

You are not reading what I have written Icabod, or you would not have re-iterated that silly question.

[icabodcrane]

You are not reading what I have written Icabod, or you would not have re-iterated that silly question.

Why won't you answer it sadie  ? 

The McCanns have accepted that the little girl being carried in that picture was not their daughter

Who are you to tell them they are wrong  ...  and that they have failed to recognise her ? 

[sadie]

Why won't you answer it sadie  ? 

The McCanns have accepted that the little girl being carried in that picture was not their daughter

Who are you to tell them they are wrong  ...  and that they have failed to recognise her ?

Stop wasting time Icabod and stop  bullying.  It is a silly question. 

The Mccanns thought it might be Madeleine, as I do, but unlike me they accepted the word of people living in a drug growing area.  People who are controlled by the drug barons and will say and do anything thta they are told to do.



To remind you:

What I have said is that

1)   the little girl being carried is NOT Bushra.    Never have I said the little girl IS Madeleine, but she certainly looks like her

and,

2)  There have been 3 sightings in canabis/kif/hemp major drug trafficking centres.
 
i)  Growing = the Zinat region of the Rif mountains = over 50% of the worlds supply
ii)  Processing and distribution = Molenbeek St John, Brussels = where most of it is processed and distributed from.  Also a town which is largely inhabited by Moroccans from the Rif mountains where the canabis is grown.
iii)  Most Hashish is imported into India via = Leh in the high Himalayas on the ancient trade routes, used by traffickers.

3)  The so called parents in the Leh sighting were called Belgian and French.   

A person calling themselves Belgian, could well have dual Belgian/ Moroccan citizenship.  If their families originated from the Rif mountains in Morocco and they had resided in Molenbeek for some time, that would be the sensible thing to do.  To gain the bebnefits from dual citizenship.

The mother claimed to be French.  Again, as i told you previously. Morocco used to be a French Protectorate and it is quite possible, it seems to me, that a person born in Morocco in that period could have dual Moroccan. French citizenship. 
So it is quite possible that the parents in Leh, whilst calling themselves Belgian and French,  were of Moroccan birth and upbringing.


4)  Also drug traffickers are known to slave traffick and sex traffick.  The drug routes used to go along the ancient trade routes.  Leh in India is on the ancient trade routes.


5)  And chilkdren are kept in Harems in N Africa by European businessmen


I repeat:
What I have said is that the little girl being carried is NOT Bushra.    Never have I said the little girl IS Madeleine, but she certainly looks like her

Icabod, have you given Madeleine a moment to compare the features mentioned?  Have you given a moment to compare the proportions of eye level to end of nose of these three girls. Madeleine, the little girl being carried and Bushra.


Are you going to give Madeleine those few minutes?  Or do you prefer her not to be found?   And the perp to be free ready for the next one?


Your decision Icabod.  Do you give those few minutes, Icabod, or do you shun a possible sighting of Madeleine ?

[icabodcrane]

I'm not bullying you sadie   ...  I'm just asking why you presume to recognise a photo as being one of  Madeleine whilst her mum and dad have not 

Don't you think Kate and Gerry know better than you  ? 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I'm not bullying you sadie   ...  I'm just asking why you presume to recognise a photo as being one of  Madeleine whilst her mum and dad have not 

Don't you think Kate and Gerry know better than you  ?

I don't want to answer for Sadie, icabod, but one thing I would note is that, as we have discussed many times, the McCanns have demonstrated that they are blinded by emotions in the context of many aspects of this this case - as probably any parents would be.

It is very possible that someone outside the situation is able to make a clearer judgement on a given point than the McCanns themselves -  despite  Gerry and Kates' knowledge and familiarity with Madeleine as parents.

Visual perception ( in common with most other kinds of perception) is a highly subjective matter -  highly contingent on emotion, and all sorts of feelings experiences positive and negative.

Your question implies that Madeleine's parents would have a monopoly on truth in this instance (an by extension on other aspects of the case as well).

This is simply not the case.

[Silkywhiskers]

Seriously don't people have better things to do than persist in trying to make a square out of a triangle?

Why is this thread even active?

[stephen25000]

Seriously don't people have better things to do than persist in trying to make a square out of a triangle?

Why is this thread even active?

Agreed.

It seems largely here to expound the ridiculous theories of one person.

[Luz]

Stop wasting time Icabod and stop  bullying.  It is a silly question. 

The Mccanns thought it might be Madeleine, as I do, but unlike me they accepted the word of people living in a drug growing area.  People who are controlled by the drug barons and will say and do anything thta they are told to do.



To remind you:

What I have said is that

1)   the little girl being carried is NOT Bushra.    Never have I said the little girl IS Madeleine, but she certainly looks like her

and,

2)  There have been 3 sightings in canabis/kif/hemp major drug trafficking centres.
 
i)  Growing = the Zinat region of the Rif mountains = over 50% of the worlds supply
ii)  Processing and distribution = Molenbeek St John, Brussels = where most of it is processed and distributed from.  Also a town which is largely inhabited by Moroccans from the Rif mountains where the canabis is grown.
iii)  Most Hashish is imported into India via = Leh in the high Himalayas on the ancient trade routes, used by traffickers.

3)  The so called parents in the Leh sighting were called Belgian and French.   

A person calling themselves Belgian, could well have dual Belgian/ Moroccan citizenship.  If their families originated from the Rif mountains in Morocco and they had resided in Molenbeek for some time, that would be the sensible thing to do.  To gain the bebnefits from dual citizenship.

The mother claimed to be French.  Again, as i told you previously. Morocco used to be a French Protectorate and it is quite possible, it seems to me, that a person born in Morocco in that period could have dual Moroccan. French citizenship. 
So it is quite possible that the parents in Leh, whilst calling themselves Belgian and French,  were of Moroccan birth and upbringing.


4)  Also drug traffickers are known to slave traffick and sex traffick.  The drug routes used to go along the ancient trade routes.  Leh in India is on the ancient trade routes.


5)  And chilkdren are kept in Harems in N Africa by European businessmen


I repeat:
What I have said is that the little girl being carried is NOT Bushra.    Never have I said the little girl IS Madeleine, but she certainly looks like her

Icabod, have you given Madeleine a moment to compare the features mentioned?  Have you given a moment to compare the proportions of eye level to end of nose of these three girls. Madeleine, the little girl being carried and Bushra.


Are you going to give Madeleine those few minutes?  Or do you prefer her not to be found?   And the perp to be free ready for the next one?


Your decision Icabod.  Do you give those few minutes, Icabod, or do you shun a possible sighting of Madeleine ?

DRUG growing area?!!! What the F????

Those people were peasants.

This McCann case has gone over the board with making up false stories and accusing innocent people.

I know there will be no legal justice to get them all, but I hope their conscience, if they have one, tortures them for the rest of their lives.

[Anna]

I have read this theory elsewhere or seen it on a video and the possibility of it being correct, and that the girl in the original photo being swopped for the benefit of an official photographer is more likely than some of the outlandish ideas being discussed on the web.

[sadie]

Well, to echo what Icabod has said before (and bizarrely in my view, been deleted) This thread is cruel in that it portrays the delusions of someone obviously not very well.

I'm taking my leave from here as an act of kindness.

What is very noticeable is that you are all dodging the question.  Are you afraid to answer it?

Furthermore as is the norm with some on this forum, if the answer goes against your engrained views and might show you up as incorrect, you then:

1)  Post numerous silly posts to swamp the question out so that new readers will not look thta far back and see the observations and question

2) Set about bullying and underrmining the posters credibility, by in some cases calling them  liars and in other cases such as this, making out that the poster is mad.


You are putting about disinformation and propaganda, just cos you cant answer the question re the comparative proportions of Madeleines face, the little carried girls face and Bushras face. 

Both your methods are underhand.  Furthermore they show how insecure you are ... and the desperation you feel that you cant answer the question without letting yourself down because of long held beliefs.


Seems you are totally unable to admit that the proportions of the little carried girls face are NOT the same proportions as Bushras face.  Nor are you able to admit that the proportions are very like Madeleines




The question still stands:

Have you checked the proportions out?  I am referring to the comparison of eyes to nose and nose to lip
..... or maybe put simpler the length of the nose in relation to the length (vertical) of the upper lip (lip to nose).  And does that comparison equate to Bushras proportions or relate to Madeleines?

[stephen25000]

What is very noticeable is that you are all dodging the question.  Are you afraid to answer it?

Furthermore as is the norm with some on this forum, if the answer goes against your engrained views and might show you up as incorrect, you then:

1)  Post numerous silly posts to swamp the question out so that new readers will not look thta far back and see the observations and question

2) Set about bullying and underrmining the posters credibility, by in some cases calling them  liars and in other cases such as this, making out that the poster is mad.


You are putting about disinformation and propaganda, just cos you cant answer the question re the comparative proportions of Madeleines face, the little carried girls face and Bushras face. 

Both your methods are underhand.  Furthermore they show how insecure you are ... and the desperation you feel that you cant answer the question without letting yourself down because of long held beliefs.


Seems you are totally unable to admit that the proportions of the little carried girls face are NOT the same proportions as Bushras face.  Nor are you able to admit that the proportions are very like Madeleines




The question still stands:

Have you checked the proportions out?  I am referring to the comparison of eyes to nose and nose to lip
..... or maybe put simpler the length of the nose in relation to the length (vertical) of the upper lip (lip to nose).  And does that comparison equate to Bushras proportions or relate to Madeleines?

There is of course the more obvious option.

This is purely a result of your imagination sadie.

[Estuarine]

Agreed.

It seems largely here to expound the ridiculous theories of one person.

I was toying with the idea of starting a thread called "The Sexual Deviations of the British Butterfly"  just to see how long before Dr Amaral was mentioned.