Did the PJ conduct a proper search for evidence at OC?

[pathfinder73]

No, the tiredness and carrying "occurred" in September and only Mrs McCann mentions it. It doesn't match the sending of Mr Payne to help Mrs McCann with the kids to the playground.

Exactly and the interesting thing is DP said the kids were fine, didn't look tired - standing up when he was there. He even said he was astonished that Kate was getting them ready for bed after Gerry told him to help Kate bring them out. Very strange. But we could be here all day talking about the contradictions of Kate and DP in regards to that visit 

[VIXTE]

Clearly, GNR dogs route wasn't fully investigated. In a case like this you cannot leave things to a chance and to orally explained solutions.. you have to have a scientific back up..

[Angelo222]

I thought a carried child does leave scent....

I still think if she was taken she went willingly outside with the pretence of looking for mummy and daddy...and then carried to a car...

Just think about it for a moment.  Why do you think escapees being followed by bloodhounds (Cool hand Luke comes to mind) take to water?    It's because airborne scent dissipates quickly whereas ground scent does not.

[Angelo222]

No dog followed Madeleine's route through the public carpark (the G6's carpark is on the other side of the building) nor to the supermarket. The dogs followed the route that Mr McCann said Madeleine (and the twins) took two mornings before, along the paved corridor and around the G5. He said he found them in a patio's bushes, the corridor in fact leads to quite a large patio with bushes (private property). Instead of going back, they headed to the alley path through that patio's gate.
After the tea, on the 3rd of May, they entered home through the patio-door, according to Mr McCann, or through the main door with the key according to Mrs McCann who was carrying Madeleine.
It seems they never agreed about the door they used. 

The dogs followed her ground scent from the patio to the car park opposite mini reception where they stopped at a lamp post.  As already stated she was probably carried after that.  Sorry if this has already been stated.

The GNR scent dogs would only have found her had she scampered off on foot.  They weren't brought in to follow an abductor carrying a child imo.

[AnneGuedes]

Exactly and the interesting thing is DP said the kids were fine, didn't look tired - standing up when he was there. He even said he was astonished that Kate was getting them ready for bed after Gerry told him to help Kate bring them out. Very strange. But we could be here all day talking about the contradictions of Kate and DP in regards to that visit 

Oh yes, the celestial episode !
Actually I'm afraid too celestial in a way.

[AnneGuedes]

The dogs followed her ground scent from the patio to the car park opposite mini reception where they stopped at a lamp post.  As already stated she was probably carried after that.  Sorry if this has already been stated.

The GNR scent dogs would only have found her had she scampered off on foot.  They weren't brought in to follow an abductor carrying a child imo.

No and no ! Sorry, Angelo... 

[AnneGuedes]

Just think about it for a moment.  Why do you think escapees being followed by bloodhounds (Cool hand Luke comes to mind) take to water?    It's because airborne scent dissipates quickly whereas ground scent does not.

What about the shoes that normally someone has on ?

[VIXTE]

The dogs followed her ground scent from the patio to the car park opposite mini reception where they stopped at a lamp post.  As already stated she was probably carried after that.  Sorry if this has already been stated.

The GNR scent dogs would only have found her had she scampered off on foot.  They weren't brought in to follow an abductor carrying a child imo.

IMO You cannot really guess.. this had to be investigated further..

[pegasus]

We all leave a trail of dead skin cells everywhere we go.
Walking, or carried, makes no difference IMO.
A child walking, or a child carried, both leave similar intensity scent trail.

[AnneGuedes]

We all leave a trail of dead skin cells everywhere we go.
Walking, or carried, makes no difference IMO.
A child walking, or a child carried, both leave similar intensity scent trail.

Yes, walking barefoot is the best.

[VIXTE]

I was thinking about GNR dogs route last night while getting to sleep. I was wondering why Kate and Gerry never pushed this lead.. maybe because this could indicate Madeleine went out on her own and they never believed it?

Anyway, GNR did a very professional job here.. and PJ did not.. they did not trust Kate and Gerry's statements, so why trust this one?

[jassi]

Yes, walking barefoot is the best.

Weren't her sandals left behind and later worn by Amelie?

[VIXTE]

Weren't her sandals left behind and later worn by Amelie?

Yes, she never had any shoes when she disappeared.

[Angelo222]

The dogs followed her ground scent from the patio to the car park opposite mini reception where they stopped at a lamp post.  As already stated she was probably carried after that.  Sorry if this has already been stated.

The GNR scent dogs would only have found her had she scampered off on foot.  They weren't brought in to follow an abductor carrying a child imo.

No and no ! Sorry, Angelo... 

What do you mean no and no??

What I have stated is known fact.  A carried child and especially one bundled up in someone's arms leaves no discernible trace on the ground.  Such a scenario only generates 'airborne' scent which will blow away almost immediately on a windy night.

To repeat, the GNR were initially searching for a straying child, not an abducted one.

[AnneGuedes]

Weren't her sandals left behind and later worn by Amelie?

There was no checking of the clothes, which remained, which had gone. Someone asked about her shoes and was told they were there. But which shoes exactly ? It's like the pyjamas she had on, the short sleeves/pants or the long ones ?
She might have opened the door and gone a few steps in the paved corridor without shoes, but she wouldn't have shut the door nor gone very far barefoot.