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Offline jassi

Re: The dogs.....
« Reply #150 on: March 22, 2014, 08:50:48 PM »
it isn't the mention of the dogs...its posters telling lies about me

Why does everything have to be about you? Others have been  discussing the dogs, too.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The dogs.....
« Reply #151 on: March 22, 2014, 08:52:12 PM »
As far as I am concerned the dogs are extremely useful tools...eddie is an evrd dog...if there is a victim...he will find it...if there is abody or part...he will find it...if there is tangible evidence...he will find it...those are his skills and he was very good at it...but the scent of death...even grime says hes not sure

Offline slartibartfast

Re: The dogs.....
« Reply #152 on: March 22, 2014, 08:53:10 PM »
i said the alerts add nothing...YOU said a waste of time...please stick to the truth

If Eddie alerts and Keela doesn't then cadaver scent has been detected by the dogs.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline valeria

Re: The dogs.....
« Reply #153 on: March 22, 2014, 08:54:11 PM »
i always wanted to ask if you know about the latent blood detection spray. It reveals blood that has been washed out. Did police use this method in the apartment? I know blood can be found no matter how old it is. This spray gives also the posibillity of taking blood for identification. If they have used this method they know if there was enough blood in the apartment (maybe from a previous occupant who bled) so to justify dogs allerts. They know  even if there was madeleine's blood that had been cleaned

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The dogs.....
« Reply #154 on: March 22, 2014, 08:55:01 PM »
If Eddie alerts and Keela doesn't then cadaver scent has been detected by the dogs.

not according to grime

Cariad

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Re: The dogs.....
« Reply #155 on: March 22, 2014, 08:55:55 PM »
As far as I am concerned the dogs are extremely useful tools...eddie is an evrd dog...if there is a victim...he will find it...if there is abody or part...he will find it...if there is tangible evidence...he will find it...those are his skills and he was very good at it...but the scent of death...even grime says hes not sure

"The dog has also been trained to identify 'dead body' scent contamination where there

is no physically retrievable evidence, due to scent adhering to pervious material such

as carpet or the upholstery in motor vehicles. Whereas there may be no retrievable

evidence for court purposes this may well assist intelligence gathering in Major Crime

investigations
."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES_PERSONAL.htm

Offline slartibartfast

Re: The dogs.....
« Reply #156 on: March 22, 2014, 08:57:25 PM »
not according to grime

That is the most likely explanation or why use the dogs.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

icabodcrane

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Re: The dogs.....
« Reply #157 on: March 22, 2014, 08:58:00 PM »
Trying to minimize the significance of a cadaver dog alerting in an apartment where a missing child was last seen has always been a difficult task

But trying to  minimize  the significance of a cadaver dog alerting in an apartment where Scotland Yard have said a child's dead body may have been  ? !  ...   on a hiding to nothing with that one

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The dogs.....
« Reply #158 on: March 22, 2014, 09:00:07 PM »
"The dog has also been trained to identify 'dead body' scent contamination where there

is no physically retrievable evidence, due to scent adhering to pervious material such

as carpet or the upholstery in motor vehicles. Whereas there may be no retrievable

evidence for court purposes this may well assist intelligence gathering in Major Crime

investigations
."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES_PERSONAL.htm

I've read all this and I have read what grime has to say re the alerts...

He says...in his opinion...so he is not stating a fact

He says the alerts are "suggestive"...not that they ARE cadaver scent


These points may mean little to you but to anyone with an open mind...grime is showing he isn't certain

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The dogs.....
« Reply #159 on: March 22, 2014, 09:03:03 PM »
Trying to minimize the significance of a cadaver dog alerting in an apartment where a missing child was last seen has always been a difficult task

But trying to  minimize  the significance of a cadaver dog alerting in an apartment where Scotland Yard have said a child's dead body may have been  ? !  ...   on a hiding to nothing with that one

only to posters who cant follow a logical argument....and SY say maddie may still be alive...what does that say about the alert...it says it does not relate to maddie...can you understand that

stephen25000

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Re: The dogs.....
« Reply #160 on: March 22, 2014, 09:06:37 PM »
only to posters who cant follow a logical argument....and SY say maddie may still be alive...what does that say about the alert...it says it does not relate to maddie...can you understand that

She also quite clearly and in all probability is dead.

Can you grasp that and the FACT that no trace of her has been found in nearly seven years ?

Cariad

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Re: The dogs.....
« Reply #161 on: March 22, 2014, 09:08:16 PM »
only to posters who cant follow a logical argument....and SY say maddie may still be alive...what does that say about the alert...it says it does not relate to maddie...can you understand that

They are also now saying that Madeleine being abducted "doesn't follow all their thinking on the case". What do you make of that?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The dogs.....
« Reply #162 on: March 22, 2014, 09:08:45 PM »
She also quite clearly and in all probability is dead.

Can you grasp that and the FACT that no trace of her has been found in nearly seven years ?

I have already posted agreement with this earlier...but...there is a faint hope she may still be alive.. a fact confirmed by amarals lawyer

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The dogs.....
« Reply #163 on: March 22, 2014, 09:11:18 PM »
They are also now saying that Madeleine being abducted "doesn't follow all their thinking on the case". What do you make of that?

could you give me the source for this statement so I can look at the whole quote...who is "they"

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The dogs.....
« Reply #164 on: March 22, 2014, 09:11:45 PM »
I have already posted agreement with this earlier...but...there is a faint hope she may still be alive.. a fact confirmed by amarals lawyer

Hope Yep.  Likelihood Nope.
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