Author Topic: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?  (Read 366402 times)

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Offline Benice

Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1650 on: October 04, 2015, 09:48:50 PM »
Has anyone bothered to count how many times Eddie woofed at HdlG & how many bodies/remains were found?

IIRC he was barking here there and everywhere inside the building.   Was any explanation given for those many alerts?

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1651 on: October 04, 2015, 09:50:15 PM »
Don't be so naive and gullible Davel, the mail is out of the question here for reasons given before, ...try again luv for a real cite, before you are 100 per cent confident Harper is a liar (alledged facts being convenient for you don't count)

im 100% confident harper is a liar

stephen25000

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Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1652 on: October 04, 2015, 09:50:52 PM »
im 100% confident harper is a liar

Prove it.

Offline misty

Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1653 on: October 04, 2015, 09:52:48 PM »
IIRC he was barking here there and everywhere inside the building.   Was any explanation given for those many alerts?

Apparently it was OK that Eddie was no longer an ACPO accredited dog so no explanation would have been required.

"Wherever the dog barked, we dug".

Wonder how they managed that at the top of a carpeted staircase?

Offline mercury

Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1654 on: October 04, 2015, 09:53:59 PM »
im 100% confident harper is a liar
Well you are often wrong and emotionally misguided, so let's put that silly comment into the 101 bin,unless you can create a plausible and believable argument with cites and proof why he would  make up  such a detailed and elaborate lie about the sample jar 6 , the alledged coconut , which was anythng but

Floors yours


Ps just to help you out again watch listen and learn

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1655 on: October 04, 2015, 09:56:26 PM »
Well you are often wrong and emotionally misguided, so let's put that silly comment into the 101 bin,unless you can create a plausible and believable argument with cites and proof why he would  make up  such a detailed and elaborate lie about the sample jar 6 , the alledged coconut , which was anythng but

Floors yours

the  mail article accuses harper of lying and much more

ferryman

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Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1656 on: October 04, 2015, 09:57:30 PM »
it seems harper was a liar.......But on May 17 last year, when he was contacted by The Mail on Sunday about the 'skull' actually being coconut, he said the real story was that newly dug-up fragments 'have been positively identified as being very young children's bones', buried as recently as the Eighties.

He added: 'The anthropologists are saying we have dead children there, not a dead child.' There were also teeth, and 'experts are saying that these teeth could not possibly have come out naturally before death because there is so much of the root attached to them'.

The claims were false. On May 2, Harper had also emailed three senior Jersey officials saying he now had proof that a second child had been buried at Haut de la Garenne: 'The bone fragments are from the skull of a child... The expert's initial findings are that the child died fairly recently - confirmation will mean that a homicide inquiry will have to [be] launched.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1217863/Bungled-Jersey-child-abuse-probe-branded-20million-shambles.html#ixzz3ndMlxTnD
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This is not what I'm looking for, either, but it does refer to what I'm looking for:


 Conclusion 18c
2.144 CO POWER neglected his duty to supervise DCO HARPER in relation to his
media releases following receipt of forensic opinion about the nature of Exhibit JAR/6.
2.145 A letter from Dr X at the Oxford laboratory was sent on
1 May 2008 addressed to DCO HARPER confirming the work carried out on
Exhibit JAR/6 and the conclusion that it was not bone but almost certainly wood.

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Offline mercury

Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1657 on: October 04, 2015, 09:57:39 PM »
the  mail article accuses harper of lying and much more

No one cares about any Mail article, they have been proven to be lies themselves, do keep up chuck

stephen25000

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Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1658 on: October 04, 2015, 09:57:57 PM »
the  mail article accuses harper of lying and much more

and the mail always tells the truth dave ? @)(++(*

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1659 on: October 04, 2015, 09:59:22 PM »
and the mail always tells the truth dave ? @)(++(*

harper could have taken them to the cleaners if they had been lying

ferryman

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Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1660 on: October 04, 2015, 09:59:48 PM »
No one cares about any Mail article, they have been proven to be lies themselves, do keep up chuck

The Mail was quoting accurately from Operation Havern.

Offline mercury

Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1661 on: October 04, 2015, 10:03:24 PM »
The Mail was quoting accurately from Operation Havern.

Even if it was (which I would have to check five times since  its come from you) it doesn't prove a thing in these circumstances
Ps
You only have to compare what the mail says with what Harper says to know who is lying here ...it's clear as crystal
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ferryman

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Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1662 on: October 04, 2015, 10:10:50 PM »
Even if it was (which I would have to check five times since  its come from you) it doesn't prove a thing in these circumstances
Ps
You only have to compare what the mail says with what Harper says to know who is lying here ...it's clear as crystal

Paragraph 2145 (Operation Havern):

Quote
A letter from Dr X at the Oxford laboratory was sent on
1 May 2008 addressed to DCO HARPER confirming the work carried out on
Exhibit JAR/6 and the conclusion that it was not bone but almost certainly wood.

stephen25000

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Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1663 on: October 04, 2015, 10:12:30 PM »
Paragraph 2145 (Operation Havern):

Almost certainly ....... 8**8:/:

Offline mercury

Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1664 on: October 04, 2015, 10:18:15 PM »
Paragraph 2145 (Operation Havern):

I've seen your quote earlier about WOOD...Harper explains if you watch the video that the fragment that the anthropologist found which SHE identified as from a skull was NOT the fragment (analysed by the original lab as containing collagen before being passed over to others who said it was wood/coconut)returned to her, get it now? Or not?

Never mind, you carry on castigating the chief on the ground trying to find evidence in a child abuse nquiry and calling him a liar so that somehow your argument against Eddie will improve the Mccanns lot....so convoluted and dark its horrid


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