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ferryman

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Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1665 on: October 04, 2015, 10:38:16 PM »
I've seen your quote earlier about WOOD...Harper explains if you watch the video that the fragment that the anthropologist found which SHE identified as from a skull was NOT the fragment (analysed by the original lab as containing collagen before being passed over to others who said it was wood/coconut)returned to her, get it now? Or not?

Never mind, you carry on castigating the chief on the ground trying to find evidence in a child abuse nquiry and calling him a liar so that somehow your argument against Eddie will improve the Mccanns lot....so convoluted and dark its horrid

Harper didn't explain anything.  Jar/6 (the exhibit under discussion) was initially found by the anthropologist, tested (and reacted to) by Eddie and passed on to various experts for further opinions.

The technician at the Oxford laboratory conclusively proved and demonstrated was a piece of wood or coconut.

Offline mercury

Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1666 on: October 04, 2015, 10:45:54 PM »
Harper didn't explain anything.  Jar/6 (the exhibit under discussion) was initially found by the anthropologist, tested (and reacted to) by Eddie and passed on to various experts for further opinions.

The technician at the Oxford laboratory conclusively proved and demonstrated was a piece of wood or coconut.

Harper DID explain, the first tests done showed COLLAGEN, ergo NOT a coconut...what happened after that is anyone's guess...illegal and unethical he called it the passing out of the fragment to all and sundry and given the jersey authorities investment in this, well, nothng should surprise you, and you don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to understand simple basics

ferryman

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Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1667 on: October 04, 2015, 11:07:07 PM »
Harper DID explain, the first tests done showed COLLAGEN, ergo NOT a coconut...what happened after that is anyone's guess...illegal and unethical he called it the passing out of the fragment to all and sundry and given the jersey authorities investment in this, well, nothng should surprise you, and you don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to understand simple basics

There was no collagen in the coconut Eddie reacted to.

Coconuts don't contain collagen.

Your (mis)use of capitals won't alter that fact.

Offline mercury

Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1668 on: October 04, 2015, 11:12:20 PM »
There was no collagen in the coconut Eddie reacted to.

Coconuts don't contain collagen.

Your (mis)use of capitals won't alter that fact.

There was no coconut at all according to the anthropologist, the sample contained collagen, the fact that the sample went AWOL afterwards should worry you but it doesn't,  your denial won't alter these facts either... ps was never my denial, just evidence from two named people on the ground

Ps don't let the facts upset you, your priority should be the truth, I suggest you stop blocking it
« Last Edit: October 04, 2015, 11:15:38 PM by mercury »

ferryman

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Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1669 on: October 04, 2015, 11:18:01 PM »
There was no coconut at all according to the anthropologist, the sample contained collagen, the fact that the sample went AWOL afterwards should worry you but it doesn't,  your denial won't alter these facts either... ps was never my denial, just evidence from two named people on the ground

Ps don't let the facts upset you, your priority should be the truth, I suggest you stop blocking it

Read the Havern report properly and you'll understand ....

Offline mercury

Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1670 on: October 04, 2015, 11:21:23 PM »
Read the Havern report properly and you'll understand ....

Who was it written by? And are you another chancer calling Harper a liar?

ferryman

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Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1671 on: October 04, 2015, 11:35:20 PM »
Who was it written by? And are you another chancer calling Harper a liar?

Misinformed, wrong, possibly in denial.

Much the same as Grime when quizzed about Eddie's reaction to the coconut and he replied, humans can't always be right.

Offline mercury

Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1672 on: October 05, 2015, 12:30:07 AM »
Misinformed, wrong, possibly in denial.



Or right all along!

 8((()*/

Which interestingly it is the last possibility in your mind, I wonder why

This case has nothng to do with the Mccanns, try and remember that before you start slagging off all and sundry even if you are invested in the saintly duo
« Last Edit: October 05, 2015, 12:35:14 AM by mercury »

Offline misty

Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1673 on: October 05, 2015, 12:43:58 AM »
Or right all along!

 8((()*/

Which interestingly it is the last possibility in your mind, I wonder why

This case has nothng to do with the Mccanns, try and remember that before you start slagging off all and sundry even if you are invested in the saintly duo

How do you think Grime accounted for all Eddie's other uncorroborated alerts in Jersey?

Offline Brietta

Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1674 on: October 05, 2015, 12:45:37 AM »
Who was it written by? And are you another chancer calling Harper a liar?

Operation HAVEN

An independent disciplinary investigation by Wiltshire Police following the suspension of Chief Officer Graham POWER
of the States of Jersey Police on 12 November 2008

Senior Investigating Officer:
Brian MOORE QPM
Chief Constable
Wiltshire Police
https://www.gov.je/SiteCollectionDocuments/Government%20and%20administration/R%20WiltshireOperationHavenRedacted%2020081112%20JN.pdf

"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline mercury

Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1675 on: October 05, 2015, 12:51:38 AM »
Operation HAVEN

An independent disciplinary investigation by Wiltshire Police following the suspension of Chief Officer Graham POWER
of the States of Jersey Police on 12 November 2008

Senior Investigating Officer:
Brian MOORE QPM
Chief Constable
Wiltshire Police
https://www.gov.je/SiteCollectionDocuments/Government%20and%20administration/R%20WiltshireOperationHavenRedacted%2020081112%20JN.pdf

And another one who hasn't watched the video and what was SAID and its ramifications, poor, very poor

Offline mercury

Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1676 on: October 05, 2015, 12:54:25 AM »
How do you think Grime accounted for all Eddie's other uncorroborated alerts in Jersey?
Its not important (eddies alerts being uncorroborated just mean there are no tests available to do so) and not the issue at the moment either

Offline Brietta

Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1677 on: October 05, 2015, 01:02:25 AM »
And another one who hasn't watched the video and what was SAID and its ramifications, poor, very poor

With respect, Mercury, why should I be swayed by a third rate interviewer and an interviewee trying to rewrite history on an internet TV endeavour when I have access to an independent disciplinary report outlining the mistakes made in the investigation into alleged events in Haute de la Garenne.
In which the actions of the excitable, inaccurate therefore unreliable cadaver dog is recorded for posterity. 
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline mercury

Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1678 on: October 05, 2015, 01:10:53 AM »
With respect, Mercury, why should I be swayed by a third rate interviewer and an interviewee trying to rewrite history on an internet TV endeavour when I have access to an independent disciplinary report outlining the mistakes made in the investigation into alleged events in Haute de la Garenne.
In which the actions of the excitable, inaccurate therefore unreliable cadaver dog is recorded for posterity.
The interviewer whether first or third rate has ZILCH to do with anything so you can scrap that for starters as she spoke very very little

So you too are callng Harper a liar just because you have some "independent report" ok then, I see everythng has gone through one ear and out the other. It has just wooshed over your head has it? That the jersey media and govt did everythng they could to scupper the investigations findings? If you are happy with that, your prerogative. LISTEN TO THE WHOLE BLEEDIN INTERVIEW then come back and tell me Harper is a liar, there was no abuse, Eddie found a coconut, and the jersey authorities were squeaky clean!!

Ps your twisted propagandist postings about  Eddie have been noted as the total desperate joke they are...it really WONT help the Mccanns me luv, it really won't, only honest postings and not dirty tricks might potentially secure that....give it a try maybe, you never know your luck otherwise youre digging a bigger hole for them than already exists
« Last Edit: October 05, 2015, 01:16:36 AM by mercury »

Offline Brietta

Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1679 on: October 05, 2015, 02:05:53 AM »
The interviewer whether first or third rate has ZILCH to do with anything so you can scrap that for starters as she spoke very very little

So you too are callng Harper a liar just because you have some "independent report" ok then, I see everythng has gone through one ear and out the other. It has just wooshed over your head has it? That the jersey media and govt did everythng they could to scupper the investigations findings? If you are happy with that, your prerogative. LISTEN TO THE WHOLE BLEEDIN INTERVIEW then come back and tell me Harper is a liar, there was no abuse, Eddie found a coconut, and the jersey authorities were squeaky clean!!

Ps your twisted propagandist postings about  Eddie have been noted as the total desperate joke they are...it really WONT help the Mccanns me luv, it really won't, only honest postings and not dirty tricks might potentially secure that....give it a try maybe, you never know your luck otherwise youre digging a bigger hole for them than already exists

The problem here may be that you are focusing only on how you would like things to be and not how they actually are.

I am sure there must have been occasions when Eddie functioned perfectly well at his job. Haute de la Garenne and Praia da Luz are two instances when we can actually see him in action and note some of his eccentricities.

I have backed up every post I have made with cites.  Perhaps it would be a courtesy for you to likewise provide a cite when refuting them.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....