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Offline jassi

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #165 on: March 27, 2014, 12:43:05 PM »
Being made Arguido is not the same as being sent to prison! Evidence would have been presented to a court and they would have had to have been found guilty.

It's hardly being "fitted up".

And  the best lawyers that other people's money could buy would have ensured that no such thing would have happened
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline John

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #166 on: March 27, 2014, 03:43:12 PM »
If they had nothing to hide they should have participated in the reconstitution if only to clarify the many discrepancies in the statements.  The fact that they jointly colluded not to go back speaks volumes and will for ever be a dark cloud over them.

They might not be suspects at this moment in time but if Madeleine is found dead near PdL that could instantly change.  The mystery over Smithman could very well become very relevant at that point.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #167 on: March 27, 2014, 06:47:11 PM »
If they had nothing to hide they should have participated in the reconstitution if only to clarify the many discrepancies in the statements.  The fact that they jointly colluded not to go back speaks volumes and will for ever be a dark cloud over them.

They might not be suspects at this moment in time but if Madeleine is found dead near PdL that could instantly change.  The mystery over Smithman could very well become very relevant at that point.

My feeling is that they feared a miscarriage of justice if they returned...what other motive could there be

Offline Albertini

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #168 on: March 27, 2014, 07:04:47 PM »
My feeling is that they feared a miscarriage of justice if they returned...what other motive could there be

That they did not want the PJ to examine by way of reconstruction their statements.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #169 on: March 27, 2014, 07:09:47 PM »
That they did not want the PJ to examine by way of reconstruction their statements.
pj could do that without them being there

Cariad

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Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #170 on: March 27, 2014, 07:36:05 PM »
My feeling is that they feared a miscarriage of justice if they returned...what other motive could there be

Put 'fear of miscarriage of justice' in one side of the scales and 'four year old daughter in clutches of paedophiles' in the other.

What would you do?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #171 on: March 27, 2014, 07:37:52 PM »
Put 'fear of miscarriage of justice' in one side of the scales and 'four year old daughter in clutches of paedophiles' in the other.

What would you do?

going back woud not have made a scrap of difference to the botched investigation....getting SY to investigate is the best option...well done Kate and Gerry

Offline Albertini

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #172 on: March 27, 2014, 07:39:53 PM »
pj could do that without them being there

They tried and it makes sense to assume they couldn't make head nor tail of it, which is why they requested the witnesses to partake so their actions could be tested in real world conditions.

From one of Rebelo's emails regarding the reconstruction:

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The re-enactment will only turn out to be efficient if performed by the participants in the events, once the information provided by the same participants needs to be tested and efficiently compared on-site, and that can only be achieved by means of their own performances. Thus, the possibility of using actors has to be put aside

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #173 on: March 27, 2014, 07:41:57 PM »
They tried and it makes sense to assume they couldn't make head nor tail of it, which is why they requested the witnesses to partake so their actions could be tested in real world conditions.

From one of Rebelo's emails regarding the reconstruction:

Going back would not have made a scrap of difference imo...and as SY haven't asked for one....

Offline Albertini

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #174 on: March 27, 2014, 07:44:15 PM »
going back woud not have made a scrap of difference to the botched investigation....getting SY to investigate is the best option...well done Kate and Gerry

Ignoring the Team McCann Pravda style tub thumping for the moment it would have made one significant difference to the investigation....

It would have allowed the official police investigation into THEIR missing daughter to remain active and open.

Offline Albertini

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #175 on: March 27, 2014, 07:48:44 PM »
Going back would not have made a scrap of difference imo...and as SY haven't asked for one....

We know your opinion, doesn't make it fact or right does it? Rebelo explained quite clearly and honestly why his investigation wanted the reconstruction and most right minded folk can understand why it would be Important to try and clarify their statements by way of re-enacting their claimed events of the evening in order to move the investigation forward. 

No SY haven't asked for one YET.

Who knows what they will ask for when all the other leads are exhausted.

Cariad

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Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #176 on: March 27, 2014, 07:57:50 PM »
going back woud not have made a scrap of difference to the botched investigation....getting SY to investigate is the best option...well done Kate and Gerry

We don't know what difference it might have made. You categorically claiming that it wouldn't make any, is as useful as me categorically claiming it would've resulting in the safe return of Madeline Mccann.

The point I'm making is that there was at least a chance of it moving the investigation forward. As a mother, I wouldn't have missed that chance, no matter how slime it was. I couldn't have and still been able to look myself in the mirror every morning.

Offline jassi

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #177 on: March 27, 2014, 07:58:04 PM »
going back woud not have made a scrap of difference to the botched investigation....getting SY to investigate is the best option...well done Kate and Gerry

Do you really think SY are going to solve this ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Estuarine

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Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #178 on: March 27, 2014, 08:00:53 PM »
Fundamentally T7 stuck two fingers up at the Police in 2 countries.
"Yeah we'll go over there chief but we and our mates must be absolved of all potential crimes before we go"."Oh! and remove the arguido status from our mates or all bets are off"
Well not much reading between the lines is required there.
Justified by the sycophants solely on the basis that the Portuguese police force is is bent.
Now were you squeaky clean and really wanted to find a missing child.......................it is becoming tedious.



Offline Mr Gray

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #179 on: March 27, 2014, 08:13:20 PM »
Fundamentally T7 stuck two fingers up at the Police in 2 countries.
"Yeah we'll go over there chief but we and our mates must be absolved of all potential crimes before we go"."Oh! and remove the arguido status from our mates or all bets are off"
Well not much reading between the lines is required there.
Justified by the sycophants solely on the basis that the Portuguese police force is is bent.
Now were you squeaky clean and really wanted to find a missing child.......................it is becoming tedious.

We are all fully aware how much you dislike the McCanns...as regards the pj being bent...perhaps they had read about amaral and the cipriano case