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stephen25000

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Re: We have people that monitor the internet.
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2014, 08:45:10 AM »

If you believe that Stephen -  then surely by the same token anyone could claim that there are people on the net who are obviously posting on behalf of the abductors and whose remit is to spend their time repeatedly trying to persuade the world to blame the McCanns - in order to deflect attention away from the monsters who took Madeleine.

Having read sites where the posters often discuss amongst themselves the various types of violence they would 'love' to inflict on the McCanns - then I think it would be very unwise NOT to monitor them.   IMO it is obvious there are some very nasty and seriously unhinged people out there.

There are some seriously unhinged people who belong to both camps Benice.

As to 'abductors', you already know i don't believe that.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: We have people that monitor the internet.
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2014, 09:11:52 AM »
There are some seriously unhinged people who belong to both camps Benice.

As to 'abductors', you already know i don't believe that.

and we know that SY do

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Re: We have people that monitor the internet.
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2014, 09:46:41 AM »
There are some seriously unhinged people who belong to both camps Benice.

As to 'abductors', you already know i don't believe that.


With hand on heart I have never read any threats to kick, punch, waterboard or shoot Amaral anywhere on the net.    And those are just a few of the threats of violence I've read made against the McCann family.

Whether you believe in the abduction or not  - as a family man yourself - wouldn't you expect those sadistic, hate filled posters who openly advocate violence against one family to be monitored?

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

stephen25000

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Re: We have people that monitor the internet.
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2014, 09:50:56 AM »

With hand on heart I have never read any threats to kick, punch, waterboard or shoot Amaral anywhere on the net.    And those are just a few of the threats of violence I've read made against the McCann family.

Whether you believe in the abduction or not  - as a family man yourself - wouldn't you expect those sadistic, hate filled posters who openly advocate violence against one family to be monitored?

Read around a bit more.

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Re: We have people that monitor the internet.
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2014, 10:04:31 AM »
Read around a bit more.

Please could you answer my question:

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''Whether you believe in the abduction or not  - as a family man yourself - wouldn't you expect those sadistic, hate filled posters who openly advocate violence against one family to be monitored?''
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

stephen25000

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Re: We have people that monitor the internet.
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2014, 11:19:14 AM »
Please could you answer my question:

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''Whether you believe in the abduction or not  - as a family man yourself - wouldn't you expect those sadistic, hate filled posters who openly advocate violence against one family to be monitored?''

If you had read any of any of my posts in the past, I abhor violence or threats of violence, from whereever it comes, mccann supporter or not.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: We have people that monitor the internet.
« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2014, 01:06:54 PM »
And then there was our dear friend "Laffin Assassin"

Sean Hyland, 50, was cautioned last year over hateful remarks he made about Kate and Gerry McCann and their spokesman.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/248474/Vile-troll-s-warning-to-McCanns

Offline faithlilly

Re: We have people that monitor the internet.
« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2014, 01:15:16 PM »
And then there was our dear friend "Laffin Assassin"

Sean Hyland, 50, was cautioned last year over hateful remarks he made about Kate and Gerry McCann and their spokesman.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/248474/Vile-troll-s-warning-to-McCanns

So one harassment warning but for messages left on Mitchell's answerphone and comments left on forums, actions that are not to be condoned but falling very short of ' threats of violence'.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

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Re: We have people that monitor the internet.
« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2014, 01:32:12 PM »
No she wasn't. She contacted the police and explained what had happened and basically they said she had been foolish and not to do it again.

Just 'normal' behaviour applauded by like minded chums ... no need for me to add anything ... trying to excuse people intent on organising such sick actions shows up everyone involved for exactly what they are.

 - SNIP - Under a link to a newspaper story on the event, the weirdo wrote: "Well I am going. Anyone got a gun? BBBanggggg!"

Other trolls, who have made Kate and husband Gerry's lives hell with smears, piled in with further sick comments.

One warped user wrote: "What would really spook her is if she is surrounded by a group all wearing Madeleine face masks."

A few made jokes about entering police sniffer dogs into the event to chase after Kate.
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id438.html
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

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Re: We have people that monitor the internet.
« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2014, 02:04:55 PM »
Just 'normal' behaviour applauded by like minded chums ... no need for me to add anything ... trying to excuse people intent on organising such sick actions shows up everyone involved for exactly what they are.

 - SNIP - Under a link to a newspaper story on the event, the weirdo wrote: "Well I am going. Anyone got a gun? BBBanggggg!"

Other trolls, who have made Kate and husband Gerry's lives hell with smears, piled in with further sick comments.

One warped user wrote: "What would really spook her is if she is surrounded by a group all wearing Madeleine face masks."

A few made jokes about entering police sniffer dogs into the event to chase after Kate.
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id438.html

For someone who has been the victim of a supporter's campaign to find where I worked in order to inform my employers of my McCann-sceptic posts, and in the meantime contacting the employers of a poor woman with the same name as myself, I think it's rather rich of you to take the moral high ground.

In my time I have seen supporters use deaths in the family, sexual abuse, disability and mental health problems as subjects with which to harangue sceptics. I have seen one woman driven nearly mad by threats from supporters when they managed to obtain her phone number. I have seen sceptic's children targeted by supporters by the posting their photographs on their blogs.

So please don't pretend that there aren't lunatics on both sides and further don't pretend for one minute that the harassment that the McCanns suffer at the hands of a very few idiots is any more frightening than the harassment that many sceptics suffer at the hands of their supporters.
« Last Edit: July 13, 2014, 02:19:43 PM by Faithlilly »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Alfred R Jones

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Re: We have people that monitor the internet.
« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2014, 03:07:14 PM »
Bearing in mind the sheer volume of abuse and regular threats to harm (and who is to say which of these threats is just "having a laugh"  versus the ravings of a violent, obsessed mind?) directed at these parents of a missing child, who can blame them for having people that monitor this online abuse?  What does monitoring the internet for threats to your safety and well-being mean with regard to your own integrity and honesty?  Does it make you a bad person?  Should you be criticised for having people who monitor the internet for you, and if so why? 

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: We have people that monitor the internet.
« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2014, 03:26:02 PM »
Bearing in mind the sheer volume of abuse and regular threats to harm (and who is to say which of these threats is just "having a laugh"  versus the ravings of a violent, obsessed mind?) directed at these parents of a missing child, who can blame them for having people that monitor this online abuse?  What does monitoring the internet for threats to your safety and well-being mean with regard to your own integrity and honesty?  Does it make you a bad person?  Should you be criticised for having people who monitor the internet for you, and if so why? 

I wonder if monitoring the internet counts as searching for their missing daughter.

Maybe she'll turn up in a forum one day.

Perhaps if the McCanns were less concerned about what people thought of them & were genuinely searching for Madeleine, instead of having people monitoring the internet for them, they could employ them to get off their arses & do a bit of searching instead, who knows, maybe she'd be home in time for Christmas.
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stephen25000

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Re: We have people that monitor the internet.
« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2014, 03:34:30 PM »
For someone who has been the victim of a supporter's campaign to find where I worked in order to inform my employers of my McCann-sceptic posts, and in the meantime contacting the employers of a poor woman with the same name as myself, I think it's rather rich of you to take the moral high ground.

In my time I have seen supporters use deaths in the family, sexual abuse, disability and mental health problems as subjects with which to harangue sceptics. I have seen one woman driven nearly mad by threats from supporters when they managed to obtain her phone number. I have seen sceptic's children targeted by supporters by the posting their photographs on their blogs.

So please don't pretend that there aren't lunatics on both sides and further don't pretend for one minute that the harassment that the McCanns suffer at the hands of a very few idiots is any more frightening than the harassment that many sceptics suffer at the hands of their supporters.

Excellent post. It puts pay to the rubbish from mccann supporters that the abuse is one way traffic.

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Alfred R Jones

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Re: We have people that monitor the internet.
« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2014, 03:48:57 PM »
I wonder if monitoring the internet counts as searching for their missing daughter.

Maybe she'll turn up in a forum one day.

Perhaps if the McCanns were less concerned about what people thought of them & were genuinely searching for Madeleine, instead of having people monitoring the internet for them, they could employ them to get off their arses & do a bit of searching instead, who knows, maybe she'd be home in time for Christmas.
Firstly, what does having people monitoring the internet for you have to do with searching for your missing child?  It is possible to have people monitoring the internet  while you get on with other activities, is it not?
Secondly, what searching would you expect the McCanns to be doing at this stage, bearing in mind that there is a 30 strong team investigating their child's disappearance currently?
Thirdly, how about actually answering some of the questions I posed in my post all of which you ignored?
« Last Edit: July 16, 2014, 03:56:41 PM by Mr Moderator »

Offline Brietta

Re: We have people that monitor the internet.
« Reply #29 on: July 13, 2014, 04:41:29 PM »
For someone who has been the victim of a supporter's campaign to find where I worked in order to inform my employers of my McCann-sceptic posts, and in the meantime contacting the employers of a poor woman with the same name as myself, I think it's rather rich of you to take the moral high ground.

In my time I have seen supporters use deaths in the family, sexual abuse, disability and mental health problems as subjects with which to harangue sceptics. I have seen one woman driven nearly mad by threats from supporters when they managed to obtain her phone number. I have seen sceptic's children targeted by supporters by the posting their photographs on their blogs.

So please don't pretend that there aren't lunatics on both sides and further don't pretend for one minute that the harassment that the McCanns suffer at the hands of a very few idiots is any more frightening than the harassment that many sceptics suffer at the hands of their supporters.

I note that you fall far short of condemning the insanity and volume of the abuse directed at the Drs McCann, who I may remind you are the parents of a missing child.

I also note that what you are describing is the situation being suffered day and daily but multiplied thousands fold by the McCann family. 

It says a lot about you that while you condemn isolated incidents you fail to condemn organised campaigns against people you do not know but have decided views about. Why is that?
You ignore the danger implicit in goading seriously disturbed individuals into action against the targets of this organised vitriol.  Why is that? 

What kind of mind is it that would even think of putting on a ‘madeleine’ face mask … a child who is missing ... and surrounding her mother while she is running to raise money for the charity set up to assist in publicising missing people and assisting their families?   
IMO a very disturbed mind indeed.

Yet in a certain section of society ... it met with universal approval ... and I note you do not distance yourself from it.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....