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Offline faithlilly

Re: We have people that monitor the internet.
« Reply #45 on: July 13, 2014, 06:23:37 PM »
Quote from: Brietta on July 13, 2014, 06:16:11 PM
But you still do not condemn the long running, organised campaigns to vilify the family of a missing child, which extends to the child herself when attempts are made to interfere with and impede the investigation into exactly what happened to her.

I do not condemn the perfectly legal discussion of this case.

Now do you condemn the targeting of sceptics by supporters simply because they have a different opinion ?
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: We have people that monitor the internet.
« Reply #46 on: July 13, 2014, 06:29:14 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on July 13, 2014, 06:23:37 PM
I do not condemn the perfectly legal discussion of this case.

Now do you condemn the targeting of sceptics by supporters simply because they have a different opinion ?

so you don't condemn the long running campaign to vilify the parents...as its quite legal...but extremely nasty....any harassment you incur by doing this I think you fully deserve..as long as its legal of course
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: We have people that monitor the internet.
« Reply #47 on: July 13, 2014, 06:30:46 PM »
Quote from: Slartibartfast on July 13, 2014, 05:48:25 PM
If you can accept that questioning or having doubts about the McCann's story does not equal abuse of the McCanns then I can accept that.
No I'm sorry I can't accept that, because you and I know that this "questioning" and "having doubts" (which sounds all innocent and wide-eyed when described in those terms) amounts to a lot more than just "questioning" and "having doubts".  It's almost invariably accompanied by a combination of at least one of the following: snide, insulting written observations, "satirical" pictures, abusive forum names and avatars, out-right libellous accusation, myths and lies, snooping and prying into the family's personal affairs, campaigning against them by writing letters, spamming newspaper articles, actively seeking out new people to "convert" to the sceptic cause etc.  By all means have your doubts and your questions, but when it crosses the line is when it is accompanied by any of the above behaviour.  Then it becomes abuse of the parents of a missing child, which is not acceptable in any decent civilised society, in my opinion. 
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: We have people that monitor the internet.
« Reply #48 on: July 13, 2014, 06:38:48 PM »
Quote from: Alfred R Jones on July 13, 2014, 06:30:46 PM
No I'm sorry I can't accept that, because you and I know that this "questioning" and "having doubts" (which sounds all innocent and wide-eyed when described in those terms) amounts to a lot more than just "questioning" and "having doubts".  It's almost invariably accompanied by a combination of at least one of the following: snide, insulting written observations, "satirical" pictures, abusive forum names and avatars, out-right libellous accusation, myths and lies, snooping and prying into the family's personal affairs, campaigning against them by writing letters, spamming newspaper articles, actively seeking out new people to "convert" to the sceptic cause etc.  By all means have your doubts and your questions, but when it crosses the line is when it is accompanied by any of the above behaviour.  Then it becomes abuse of the parents of a missing child, which is not acceptable in any decent civilised society, in my opinion.

So from your second to last sentence, you do accept the questioning or having doubts about the McCann's story is not abuse.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: We have people that monitor the internet.
« Reply #49 on: July 13, 2014, 06:46:30 PM »
Quote from: Slartibartfast on July 13, 2014, 06:38:48 PM
So from your second to last sentence, you do accept the questioning or having doubts about the McCann's story is not abuse.
Did you not read my post, or do I have to repeat myself?  The vast majority of "questioning" and "doubting" is accompanied by McCann abuse in one form or another.  To its credit this forum is just about the only place on the internet where there is some attempt to limit the abuse but it is not always very successful.  If all posters who questioned  and doubted were like Pegasus (who I assume is a sceptic) then I would not class that as abusive per se, but he or she is a rare fish indeed. 
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Offline faithlilly

Re: We have people that monitor the internet.
« Reply #50 on: July 13, 2014, 06:59:59 PM »
I'm sure the behaviour that you describe is illegal so no I do not condone it.

Now please answer my question. 
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Brietta

Re: We have people that monitor the internet.
« Reply #51 on: July 13, 2014, 07:00:29 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on July 13, 2014, 06:23:37 PM
I do not condemn the perfectly legal discussion of this case.

Now do you condemn the targeting of sceptics by supporters simply because they have a different opinion ?

I strongly support the targetting by the requisite authorities of those who take part in abusive internet activities which everyone taking part in this discussion is familiar with.
Many of these persons should have been hauled in years ago and questioned with a view to prosecution; I deplore that the police have done this only to the more extreme.


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Offline jassi

Re: We have people that monitor the internet.
« Reply #52 on: July 13, 2014, 07:04:12 PM »
Quote from: Brietta on July 13, 2014, 07:00:29 PM
I strongly support the targetting by the requisite authorities of those who take part in abusive internet activities which everyone taking part in this discussion is familiar with.
Many of these persons should have been hauled in years ago and questioned with a view to prosecution; I deplore that the police have done this only to the more extreme.

Obviously theses people have not omitted any actual crime, other than offending your concept of what is right.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: We have people that monitor the internet.
« Reply #53 on: July 13, 2014, 07:05:56 PM »
Quote from: Brietta on July 13, 2014, 07:00:29 PM
I strongly support the targetting by the requisite authorities of those who take part in abusive internet activities which everyone taking part in this discussion is familiar with.
Many of these persons should have been hauled in years ago and questioned with a view to prosecution; I deplore that the police have done this only to the more extreme.

Why are you so loath to condemn your fellow supporters Brietta ?

Do you believe jeopardising someone's livelihood because you do not agree with them is ever justifiable ?
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Brietta

Re: We have people that monitor the internet.
« Reply #54 on: July 13, 2014, 07:06:31 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on July 13, 2014, 06:59:59 PM
I'm sure the behaviour that you describe is illegal so no I do not condone it.

Now please answer my question.

I do not tolerate abuse or bullying of any kind ... as should be plain from what I post.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: We have people that monitor the internet.
« Reply #55 on: July 13, 2014, 07:09:00 PM »
Quote from: Brietta on July 13, 2014, 07:06:31 PM
I do not tolerate abuse or bullying of any kind ... as should be plain from what I post.

So I take it from your reply you condemn your fellow supporters for doing so ?

Thank you Brietta.
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Brietta

Re: We have people that monitor the internet.
« Reply #56 on: July 13, 2014, 07:11:01 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on July 13, 2014, 07:05:56 PM
Why are you so loath to condemn your fellow supporters Brietta ?

Do you believe jeopardising someone's livelihood because you do not agree with them is ever justifiable ?

Gonna give me two minutes to type ... I am not Speedy Gonzales ... I do the two finger stuff with the occasional thumb ... so do stop badgering please.
I don't really go in for rhetorical questions ... but you will note your question has been answered in my ... last post.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: We have people that monitor the internet.
« Reply #57 on: July 13, 2014, 07:11:52 PM »
Quote from: Brietta on July 13, 2014, 07:11:01 PM
Gonna give me two minutes to type ... I am not Speedy Gonzales ... I do the two finger stuff with the occasional thumb ... so do stop badgering please.
I don't really go in for rhetorical questions ... but you will note your question has been answered in my ... last post.

It has indeed and a thank you offered.
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Brietta

Re: We have people that monitor the internet.
« Reply #58 on: July 13, 2014, 07:15:18 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on July 13, 2014, 07:11:52 PM
It has indeed and a thank you offered.

 ... and thank you for your condemnation of the organised campaigns against the McCann family, a very few of which I have detailed ...
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: We have people that monitor the internet.
« Reply #59 on: July 13, 2014, 07:26:23 PM »
This is all very interesting but has anyone yet discussed if having people who monitor the internet for abuse and threats is worthy of suspicion and / or criticism?
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