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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #375 on: September 13, 2014, 06:59:45 PM »
Just had a look at the book in waterstones. It is highly critical of amaral, pat brown, Bennett..stevo etc. It is extremely supportive of the mccanns . It points out where amaral misinterprets the evidence. I don't see how anyone can ignore such an established journalist...he really puts the doubters in their place.

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #376 on: September 13, 2014, 07:02:35 PM »
Perhaps not! According to the Tapas groups timeline,GM was witnessed by JT talking to Jez at 9.15pm. So,pretty much as soon as he returns to the restaurant,Kate stands up ready to do a check? Bizarre!
I find it bizarre that you  would find it bizarre- most people who have it in for the McCanns say they could never have left their children unattended yet find it odd that parents who did leave them unattended would do very frequent checks on them...?  Why's that then?? 

Offline a.baker

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #377 on: September 13, 2014, 07:18:02 PM »
Erm,where do I actually say I have it in for the Mccanns as you put it? I am actually neither for or against them. I don't really have a theory as to what happened to Madeleine but I can see for myself that there doesn't appear to be evidence of any 'abduction'. Why would the group check roughly hourly on every other night of the holiday,and yet checks were taking place by the Mcann's by way of one going to check as soon as the other had arrived back,on the night that Madeleine went missing? Why was that evening different to all the others re the checks?

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #378 on: September 13, 2014, 07:24:12 PM »
Just had a look at the book in waterstones. It is highly critical of amaral, pat brown, Bennett..stevo etc. It is extremely supportive of the mccanns . It points out where amaral misinterprets the evidence. I don't see how anyone can ignore such an established journalist...he really puts the doubters in their place.

These two are nothing more than two writers giving their opinions.

Thy will not solve the case.

We already know Amaral misinterpreted the forensics,old news They were inconclusive.

Didn't you read what Eleanor said davel, we are not supposed to mention Bennett, or is that subject to which side of the fence you abide in ?

As to Pat Brown, why is she of less regard than this pair, who after all are only making money from Madeleine ?

have they asked why the mccanns and associates changed their stories, updating them to the circumstances.

Do they explain the dogs reactions ?

Do they explain why dogs were used in Portugal recently in the investigation ?

Do they explain why after 7 plus years, no trace of Madeleine has been found ?

Do they analyze quantitatively all other possible scenarios as to Madeleine's disappearance ?

or didn't they do that, because it might involve libel ?  %£&)**# %£&)**# %£&)**#

Clearly, a thorough and professional investigation would do that, and that yet again hasn't happened.

In the end , it's just two more amateurs giving their one sided view of the case, and as before has come no closer to solving it.

Offline Montclair

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #379 on: September 13, 2014, 07:28:37 PM »
Just had a look at the book in waterstones. It is highly critical of amaral, pat brown, Bennett..stevo etc. It is extremely supportive of the mccanns . It points out where amaral misinterprets the evidence. I don't see how anyone can ignore such an established journalist...he really puts the doubters in their place.

If this great investigative journalist managed to find the evidence and arguments to show that the McCanns were in no way involved in Madeleine's disappearance, why hasn't he presented them? There is absolutely nothing in the book which would make anyone change their mind about the inconsistencies in the statements of the parents, the lies, their strange behaviour. Nothing he writes about the findings made by the dogs would make me change my mind either. Nothing new at all.

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #380 on: September 13, 2014, 07:32:18 PM »
I am currently reading the book and I have a question. Book states that Gerry left for his check at 9.05pm, just after Mat arrived back at the restaurant telling him all was quiet at 5A. Taking into consideration the timing of the walks to and from 5A,the time GM would have spent in the apartment,and the chat with Jez,what time would he have logically/likely have arrived back at the restaurant?

But Matt hadn't arrived back at the restaurant, according to Rachel he spoke to Gerry on the way back from his listening at the windows check.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #381 on: September 13, 2014, 07:39:47 PM »
These two are nothing more than two writers giving their opinions.

Thy will not solve the case.

We already know Amaral misinterpreted the forensics,old news They were inconclusive.

Didn't you read what Eleanor said davel, we are not supposed to mention Bennett, or is that subject to which side of the fence you abide in ?

As to Pat Brown, why is she of less regard than this pair, who after all are only making money from Madeleine ?

have they asked why the mccanns and associates changed their stories, updating them to the circumstances.

Do they explain the dogs reactions ?

Do they explain why dogs were used in Portugal recently in the investigation ?

Do they explain why after 7 plus years, no trace of Madeleine has been found ?

Do they analyze quantitatively all other possible scenarios as to Madeleine's disappearance ?

or didn't they do that, because it might involve libel ?  %£&)**# %£&)**# %£&)**#

Clearly, a thorough and professional investigation would do that, and that yet again hasn't happened.

In the end , it's just two more amateurs giving their one sided view of the case, and as before has come no closer to solving it.

they are far from amateurs...everything you have stated has already been shown to be of no significance...glad to see you admit that amaral misunderstood the forensics...what a poor policeman he was

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #382 on: September 13, 2014, 07:42:11 PM »
If this great investigative journalist managed to find the evidence and arguments to show that the McCanns were in no way involved in Madeleine's disappearance, why hasn't he presented them? There is absolutely nothing in the book which would make anyone change their mind about the inconsistencies in the statements of the parents, the lies, their strange behaviour. Nothing he writes about the findings made by the dogs would make me change my mind either. Nothing new at all.

You have got things back to front as usual..no one has to find evidence to clear the mccanns its the other way round...signs of living in a fascist state..nothing will make you or others change your mind because you simply don't understand the evidence..as amaral didn't

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #383 on: September 13, 2014, 07:45:15 PM »
they are far from amateurs...everything you have stated has already been shown to be of no significance...glad to see you admit that amaral misunderstood the forensics...what a poor policeman he was

it would be very easy to write a truthful book that highlighted all the evidence against the mccanns...that would not be libellous as long as it was truthful...the problem is that most of the things you believe just are not true

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #384 on: September 13, 2014, 07:47:08 PM »
they are far from amateurs...everything you have stated has already been shown to be of no significance...glad to see you admit that amaral misunderstood the forensics...what a poor policeman he was

No davel, IT IS SIGNIFICANT.

These two writers are amateur detectives and have found nothing new.

As I said COMPETENT INVESTIGATORS examine all scenarios thoroughly.

THEY HAVEN'T.

As to Amaral, just to remind you, Madeleine's disappearance, is unsolved, as is the type of crime.

REMEMBER THAT.

stephen25000

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #385 on: September 13, 2014, 07:50:00 PM »
it would be very easy to write a truthful book that highlighted all the evidence against the mccanns...that would not be libellous as long as it was truthful...the problem is that most of the things you believe just are not true

No davel.

You do not know the mccanns told the truth

it has already been established they have told lies, and their accounts are inconsistent, and have changed.

As to what I believe, you can only see what I have typed, no more.

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #386 on: September 13, 2014, 07:59:15 PM »
Erm,where do I actually say I have it in for the Mccanns as you put it? I am actually neither for or against them. I don't really have a theory as to what happened to Madeleine but I can see for myself that there doesn't appear to be evidence of any 'abduction'. Why would the group check roughly hourly on every other night of the holiday,and yet checks were taking place by the Mcann's by way of one going to check as soon as the other had arrived back,on the night that Madeleine went missing? Why was that evening different to all the others re the checks?
Erm, where do I say you have it in for the McCanns?  Maybe the McCanns increased the frequency of their checks because of Madeleine's comments about crying when they weren't there?  Crazy idea I know...

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #387 on: September 13, 2014, 08:03:22 PM »
No davel, IT IS SIGNIFICANT.

These two writers are amateur detectives and have found nothing new.

As I said COMPETENT INVESTIGATORS examine all scenarios thoroughly.

THEY HAVEN'T.

As to Amaral, just to remind you, Madeleine's disappearance, is unsolved, as is the type of crime.

REMEMBER THAT.

professional investigative journalists..and they have done a very good job at sorting out the truth

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #388 on: September 13, 2014, 08:04:19 PM »
No davel.

You do not know the mccanns told the truth

it has already been established they have told lies, and their accounts are inconsistent, and have changed.

As to what I believe, you can only see what I have typed, no more.

you believe maddie died in an accident

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #389 on: September 13, 2014, 08:29:59 PM »
So Stephen accuses the mccanns of lying but is unable to give an example of them lying to the police..point proved