Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine

[Alfred R Jones]

Wasn't is such a pity that the McCann didn't follow their own advice?   

In what way have the MCCanns hindered the on-going investigation?

[Angelo222]

In what way have the MCCanns hindered the on-going investigation?

Oh dear you do have a short memory Alfred.  We won't even mention the withheld e-fits if you like.

www.miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=4676.0

[Alice Purjorick]

No one has mentioned the stuff about psychics yet.
Strange that.

[Alice Purjorick]

Thanks for that.

i.e. a waste of money on two amateur writers, who have come up with nothing new, and omitted information detrimental to the mccanns.

Do we know what GM said in response to DP "Cheer up G we are holiday"?. If we do that wasn't included either.

[Brietta]

Oh dear you do have a short memory Alfred.  We won't even mention the withheld e-fits if you like.

www.miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=4676.0

Not to mention the e-fits withheld by the PJ at a very early stage in the investigation -

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Portuguese police had detailed images of two suspects in the Madeleine McCann case three days after she disappeared but refused to release them.

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 The similar images of a young, white man with dark and deep set eyes was put together from sightings by British holidaymaker Derek Flack and British expat Lance Purser.

Mr Flack saw a man acting suspiciously around the McCann's holiday apartment just before Madeleine went missing.

Mr Purser said he had seen a similar man in the weeks running up to her disappearance.

But neither e-fit was released and the only image Portuguese police circulated was a picture described as nothing more than an "egg with hair".

They said they could not release any images because of secrecy laws and the fear of prejudicing any further investigation.

But a friend of the McCanns said: "It is frankly outrageous that information relating to potential suspects was not made available as a matter of extreme urgency once it was clear what had happened.

"The early stages of this were crucial and the police of all people should know that. Seeing these images has come as a shock to everyone concerned."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/2505636/Madeleine-McCann-Portuguese-police-had-pictures-of-suspects-but-did-not-release-them.html

[Angelo222]

Robbyn Swan is just full of it isn't she?

What's new about our book is that we are the first people to actually stand back and take a look at all of the documents that have been released analysed them properly, put them in order and gave the public, the reading public something cogent about what might have happened to Madeleine that night.

Sorry lovey but Gonçalo beat you to it.

So what did happen to Madeleine?  Did Summers and Swan answer their own promotional boast?

[sadie]

Robbyn Swan is just full of it isn't she?

What's new about our book is that we are the first people to actually stand back and take a look at all of the documents that have been released analysed them properly, put them in order and gave the public, the reading public something cogent about what might have happened to Madeleine that night.

Sorry lovey but Gonçalo beat you to it.

So what did happen to Madeleine?  Did Summers and Swan answer their own promotional boast?

No you are wrong Angelo.

Amaral did not stand back.   Instead, with indecent haste, he rushed in.  By the following morning he had, upon his own admission, decided that there was no abductor and that Kate and Gerry were responsible.

Furthermore
Amaral did NOT analyse the documents properly.  Maybe he didn't understand what it meant that there were NO forensics backing his claims to the dogs "proved it". 

Maybe he did understand, but just wanted to charge The Mccanns ?

You got it terribly wrong Angelo.  Soz.

[Angelo222]

Sorry lovey but Gonçalo beat you to it.

So what did happen to Madeleine?  Did Summers and Swan answer their own promotional boast?

No you are wrong Angelo.

Amaral did not stand back.   Instead, with indecent haste, he rushed in.  By the following morning he had, upon his own admission, decided that there was no abductor and that Kate and Gerry were responsible.

Furthermore
Amaral did NOT analyse the documents properly.  Maybe he didn't understand what it meant that there were NO forensics backing his claims to the dogs "proved it". 

Maybe he did understand, but just wanted to charge The Mccanns ?

You got it terribly wrong Angelo.  Soz.

In your dreams Sadie. Goncalo is one of the very few people who know the case inside out.  Summer and Swan on the other hand are amateur sleuths who rely on second hand reports to facilitate their analysis.  They are so far of the mark it is laughable.  In fact you misrepresent events totally in that it was not Amaral alone who carried out the investigation but many others, British as well as Portuguese.  What you cannot do is confuse the official investigation with Amaral's personal views which are expressed in his book.

[sadie]

In your dreams Sadie. Goncalo was one of the very few people who know the case inside out.  Summer and Swan on the other hand are amateur sleuths who rely on second hand reports to facilitate their analysis.  They are so far of the mark it is laughable.

I accept that Amaral SHOULD have known more than Summer and Swan,


...... but he didn't [at best] understand what the dogs did and did NOT tell him.  Seems Summer and Swan are on a higher mental plane, and DO understand what the dogs did and did NOT tell


And Amaral did NOT stand back and consider, he just jumped straight in, judging the Mccanns on that first morning of being guilty .  He wasn't interested in an abductor .... and that was even before he got any real evidence in. 

Actually there was none, no evidence against The Mccanns


And as far as Amaral was concerned there was NO sound analysis, just it seems, gut feeling.



All imo, of course, but the pointers are there.



Now I will wish you good night Angelo.  I am tired. 

I trust my opposing posts will still be standing in the morning ?

[Angelo222]

I accept that Amaral SHOULD have known more than Summer and Swan,


...... but he didn't [at best] understand what the dogs did and did NOT tell him.  Seems Summer and Swan are on a higher mental plane, and DO understand what the dogs did and did NOT tell


us Amaral did NOT stand back and consider, he just jumped straight in, judging the Mccanns on that first morning of being guilty .  He wasn't interested in an abductor .... and that was even before he got any real evidence in. 

Actually there was none, no evidence against The Mccanns


And as far as Amaral was concerned there was NO sound analysis, just it seems, gut feeling.



All imo, of course, but the pointers are there.



Now I will wish you good night Angelo.  I am tired. 

It's trust my opposing posts will still be standing in the morning ?

Are you running away so soon Sadie?  The dog alerts have not been proven one way or another, if remains are eventually found then those alerts will take on a whole new meaning.

Goncalo was correct to consider the McCanns as suspects, any detectives worth their salt would have done the same. His suspicions and the suspicions of those around him were brought about by the lies and half truths told by the tapas group.  Their stories were conflicting and evasive.

You are also completely wrong about the evidence but I suspect you mean proof.  Yes, there is no proof of involvement but similarly by the same token, there is no proof that they weren't involved. The perfect stalemate if you like.

[a.baker]

Great post!

[Mr Gray]

Amaral got it wrong. He misunderstood the evidence. Summers and Swann explain where he was wrong and they come to the same conclusion as SY...that's what upsets some posters

[Wonderfulspam]

Amaral got it wrong. He misunderstood the evidence. Summers and Swann explain where he was wrong and they come to the same conclusion as SY...that's what upsets some posters

You still don't understand what he said......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=27y_yIZTAeE#t=144

[Mr Gray]

You still don't understand what he said......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=27y_yIZTAeE#t=144

no you don't understand what he said

[stephen25000]

Not to mention the e-fits withheld by the PJ at a very early stage in the investigation -

 - Snipped -
Portuguese police had detailed images of two suspects in the Madeleine McCann case three days after she disappeared but refused to release them.

 - Snipped -

 The similar images of a young, white man with dark and deep set eyes was put together from sightings by British holidaymaker Derek Flack and British expat Lance Purser.

Mr Flack saw a man acting suspiciously around the McCann's holiday apartment just before Madeleine went missing.

Mr Purser said he had seen a similar man in the weeks running up to her disappearance.

But neither e-fit was released and the only image Portuguese police circulated was a picture described as nothing more than an "egg with hair".

They said they could not release any images because of secrecy laws and the fear of prejudicing any further investigation.

But a friend of the McCanns said: "It is frankly outrageous that information relating to potential suspects was not made available as a matter of extreme urgency once it was clear what had happened.

"The early stages of this were crucial and the police of all people should know that. Seeing these images has come as a shock to everyone concerned."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/2505636/Madeleine-McCann-Portuguese-police-had-pictures-of-suspects-but-did-not-release-them.html

Seen them before.

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