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Offline Brietta

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #525 on: September 15, 2014, 01:43:26 PM »
Let's be fair.... what would one expect a professional writer to do..... write a book to be carter-rucked or write a book for mega bucks......

Everyone knows by now .... writers and media alike ..... that they are not allowed to say anything against the mccs so called official version of events or else! That is a crime of lésé majesté

If there is nothing to justify a carter-rucking in a book it would be impossible to carter- ruck an author. 

In other words ... they would only be carter-rucked if what they wrote was libel.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline xtina

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #526 on: September 15, 2014, 02:02:35 PM »
If a professional author thought there was a story to be told that couldn't be told for legal reasons, they wouldn't write the book.



that was my point.....you have to write a book about the abduction....god forbid ...you dare criticise the mccs ...

I dont understand your point ...if there is a story to be told .its nothing new..non of it....unless you mean that is all it is ...a story...
Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge.

The first storyteller you will always find has modified the story, for there benefit BE WISE.

ferryman

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #527 on: September 15, 2014, 02:05:52 PM »


that was my point.....you have to write a book about the abduction....god forbid ...you dare criticise the mccs ...

I dont understand your point ...if there is a story to be told .its nothing new..non of it....unless you mean that is all it is ...a story...

There is a story to be told about an grave injustice meted out to innocent and bereft parents desperate to have their loved and cherished daughter back -- and the authors have told it.

stephen25000

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #528 on: September 15, 2014, 03:33:41 PM »
or even how to make big bucks on the back of a little girls misfortune.

That ultimately is the intention of these authors, especially her.

It is not written for altruistic reasons.

Offline Benice

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #529 on: September 15, 2014, 03:39:25 PM »
How do you know that Gonc misinterpreted the dog alerts?  Nobody knows at this point in time what the dogs alerted to and that includes S&S.

IMo The main reason for his misinterpretation was that he apparently believed that wherever Eddie alerted - that was proof that a dead body must have been in that spot.   And as we know from Martin Grime - that is not necessarily the case.   There are other reasons for an alert which do not involve a cadaver.    It is obvious that Amaral was completely ignorant of those other reasons for an alert.   IOW he didn't do his homework properly. 

 
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Angelo222

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #530 on: September 15, 2014, 03:45:51 PM »
IMo The main reason for his misinterpretation was that he apparently believed that wherever Eddie alerted - that was proof that a dead body must have been in that spot.   And as we know from Martin Grime - that is not necessarily the case.   There are other reasons for an alert which do not involve a cadaver.    It is obvious that Amaral was completely ignorant of those other reasons for an alert.   IOW he didn't do his homework properly. 

 

Your claim that he misunderstood or misinterpreted the alerts is not competent since nobody has been able to prove it one way or another. For all anyone knows Goncalo was spot on.
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De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #531 on: September 15, 2014, 03:56:55 PM »
IMo The main reason for his misinterpretation was that he apparently believed that wherever Eddie alerted - that was proof that a dead body must have been in that spot.  And as we know from Martin Grime - that is not necessarily the case.   There are other reasons for an alert which do not involve a cadaver.    It is obvious that Amaral was completely ignorant of those other reasons for an alert.   IOW he didn't do his homework properly. 

 

According to Summers & Swan the reason for misinterpretation was a poorly drafted email from the FSS. Anything else they say in this context is seasoned liberally with words like "seem" and "appear". As pretty well all of those involved declined interviews they had to rely on existing documentation.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #532 on: September 15, 2014, 04:07:25 PM »
or even how to make big bucks on the back of a little girls misfortune.
  I trust you are similarly disapproving of every non-fiction book ever written about any misfortune that has ever befallen anyone, ever, if the author(s) derived profit from it?

Offline Brietta

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #533 on: September 15, 2014, 04:14:34 PM »
There is a story to be told about an grave injustice meted out to innocent and bereft parents desperate to have their loved and cherished daughter back -- and the authors have told it.

The authors have indeed addressed a grave injustice and without resorting to rhetoric have highlighted the disturbing aspect of the concerted attacks on Madeleine’s parents who have become the focus for everything which is abhorrent about human nature amplified by the abuse of the anonymous platform provided by the internet.

Indeed it is a story which is worthy of telling; when combined with the telling of the parents' physical and mental distress is one for people to ponder.  It has been a matter of record ... but the recoding of the abuse by respected authors is long overdue and may indeed galvanise officialdom into redressing the balance.

Naming and shaming anyone?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #534 on: September 15, 2014, 04:34:53 PM »
or even how to make big bucks on the back of a little girls misfortune.

The first to jump on the particular bandwagon of making 'big bucks' out of Madeleine McCann were Paulo Pereira Cristóvão and Hernani Carvalho followed shortly thereafter by Goncalo Amaral.

The  book authored by Summers & Swann has the advantage in having been written with due attention given to legitimate research and the facts of the case such as are known.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Benice

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #535 on: September 15, 2014, 04:36:43 PM »
Your claim that he misunderstood or misinterpreted the alerts is not competent since nobody has been able to prove it one way or another. For all anyone knows Goncalo was spot on.

But that is the whole point Angelo - it hasn't been proved one way or another.   So do you think it was fair and honest for Amaral to lead the readers of his book to believe that it had been proved? 
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #536 on: September 15, 2014, 05:30:36 PM »
Your claim that he misunderstood or misinterpreted the alerts is not competent since nobody has been able to prove it one way or another. For all anyone knows Goncalo was spot on.

amaral misunderstood the alerts. He was under the impression that the alerts proved the presence of cadaverine...he also misunderstood the DNA. Read the book...you will learn something

ferryman

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #537 on: September 15, 2014, 05:32:57 PM »
The first to jump on the particular bandwagon of making 'big bucks' out of Madeleine McCann were Paulo Pereira Cristóvão and Hernani Carvalho followed shortly thereafter by Goncalo Amaral.

The  book authored by Summers & Swann has the advantage in having been written with due attention given to legitimate research and the facts of the case such as are known.

Of course, the big difference between them and the McCanns is that money the McCanns made was not for them!

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #538 on: September 15, 2014, 06:33:15 PM »
Waterloo has 5 reviews............LFM has 12 already...strange

Why ? Waterloo is a weightier tome  *&*%£ 8(>((
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #539 on: September 15, 2014, 06:42:38 PM »
Waterloo has 5 reviews............LFM has 12 already...strange
The trolls are knocking themselves out to rubbish this book - they're obviously terrified of it.  It's quite hilarious! @)(++(*