Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine

[faithlilly]

Almost as if it never happened.

Exactly jassi. Very strange indeed  &%+((£

[ferryman]

I can't find a detailed reference to David Payne's visit to the McCann apartment at 6.30 in Summers book and wondered if anyone else can ? There is only a brief mention that he had seen Madeleine earlier in the evening of the 3rd but no time is mentioned or any details. Of course I could have simply missed it but  it does seem rather strange that the last sighting of Madeleine by anyone other than her parents has been marginalised in Summers book and totally left out of the Crimewatch reconstruction.

Neither is there mention of either inspection at villa or Gym.

Perhaps because all 3 are irrelevant, just as the stain removed from the boot of the Renault is irrelevant (neither mentioned in looking for Madeleine)

They struck a good balance, Summer and Swann.

[Anna]

Neither is there mention of either inspection at villa or Gym.

Perhaps because all 3 are irrelevant, just as the stain removed from the boot of the Renault is irrelevant (neither mentioned in looking for Madeleine)

They struck a good balance, Summer and Swann.

No mention of any of the Tapas group by name that I can see and S&S knew, that we could read all of that in the files.

[jassi]

No mention of any of the Tapas group by name that I can see and S&S knew, that we could read all of that in the files.

Hardly the point if you are writing a book, is it ? I mean, why bother writing at all when you can read everything in the files?

[Anna]

Hardly the point if you are writing a book, is it ? I mean, why bother writing at all when you can read everything in the files?

Yes you are correct Jassi,
 so perhaps there was restrictions to the Witness statements or using individuals names. It has been a while since I read it, so not sure. I will look later

[faithlilly]

Neither is there mention of either inspection at villa or Gym.

Perhaps because all 3 are irrelevant, just as the stain removed from the boot of the Renault is irrelevant (neither mentioned in looking for Madeleine)

They struck a good balance, Summer and Swann.

By no stretch of the imagination can the last time anyone saw Madeleine alive apart from her parents be called 'irrelevant'.

Couple that with Payne's non-appearance in Crimewatch ( in fact all the McCann's friends are mentioned by name expect the Paynes and Dianne Webster ) and it does make you wonder why he and his wife seem to be being systematically scrubbed from the case

[Anna]

All of the tapas group are mentioned in the book(just had a quick look) and if you go to the end of the book, just before the footnotes, you will see an alphabetical list which includes their names and how many times they are mentioned and where.

Not word perfect:-
David Payne who dropped in briefly at some time early evening and Madeleine's parents were the only people who saw Maddie between 5.30 pm and 10pm ......chapter 13 location 2395

[faithlilly]

All of the tapas group are mentioned in the book(just had a quick look) and if you go to the end of the book, just before the footnotes, you will see an alphabetical list which includes their names and how many times they are mentioned and where.

Not word perfect:-
David Payne who dropped in briefly at some time early evening and Madeleine's parents were the only people who saw Maddie between 5.30 pm and 10pm ......chapter 13 location 2395

Thank you Anna that was the brief mention I was alluding to.

[Anna]

Thank you Anna that was the brief mention I was alluding to.

You are welcome, Faith.
 Such a brief visit was only worth a brief mention IMO. Nothing occurred on that visit, did it?

[pathfinder73]

You are welcome, Faith.
 Such a brief visit was only worth a brief mention IMO. Nothing occurred on that visit, did it?

YES.

During the afternoon of that day the rest of the group members, including the children, were at the beach, [they] having returned at 18H30, the time at which he saw DP next to the tennis court. DAVID went to visit KATE and the children and returned close to 19H00. (GM 10 May)

[faithlilly]

You are welcome, Faith.
 Such a brief visit was only worth a brief mention IMO. Nothing occurred on that visit, did it?

It was the last time anyone except her parents saw her and therefore a very important in establishing a timeline.

[Benice]

YES.

During the afternoon of that day the rest of the group members, including the children, were at the beach, [they] having returned at 18H30, the time at which he saw DP next to the tennis court. DAVID went to visit KATE and the children and returned close to 19H00. (GM 10 May)

IIRC GM asked DP to call in on Kate - which he did - after which he went to his own apartment to get his tennis gear and returned to the courts.   Is there something sinister about that?

[Alice Purjorick]

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE.htm
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm
Err I, as I say I'm not sure you know what happened to Matt and Russell at that particular moment but I remember then you know I went over to see err Gerry at the err you know tennis courts, just to see you know what was happening, and err decided that we'd, you know I'd come, come back to play tennis and err Gerry had asked me just to pop in and check everything was alright err with Kate or you know again I can't remember the exact reason whether he was just making sure it was alright that he could stay there and you know more time but you know he'd asked me to pop in.
So I walked back err from the tennis courts, err back to err you know Kate and Gerry's apartment and the time you know looking at, you know we've looked obviously at photographs since then and you know the time that we've got that I was you know going to Kate's about six thirty, err and I went into their apartment through the patio doors. The three children were all you know dressed you know in their pyjamas, you know they looked immaculate, you know they were just like angels, they all looked so happy and well looked after and content and I said to Kate, you know it's a bit early for the you know, for the three of them to be going to bed, she said ah they've had such a great time, they're really tired and you know err so I say, you know I can't remember exactly what, what you know the night attire, what the children were wearing but white was the predominant err colour, but you know just to reinforce they were just so happy, you know seeing you know obviously Gerry wasn't there but they were just all, just so at peace and you know they looked like a family who'd had such a fantastic time and err yeah then I left there, went and got my stuff, went back to the tennis courts and then err there was me, Matt and Russell and I think Gerry played a little, for a little while but he decided that he'd, he'd played enough tennis for that day and err was going back and so it left with me, Russell and err Matt and err Dan who was the, the you know the tennis coach from Mark Warner.

[faithlilly]

IIRC GM asked DP to call in on Kate - which he did - after which he went to his own apartment to get his tennis gear and returned to the courts.   Is there something sinister about that?

Nothing.

So why is it being airbrushed from history ?

[Alfred R Jones]

Nothing.

So why is it being airbrushed from history ?

Drop your mate Summers an e-mail and ask him.