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Offline Brietta

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1125 on: May 09, 2015, 11:19:57 AM »
Then you (and S&S... and Judy Finnegan) should have been campaigning against the xenophobia.

Instead S&S and Finnegan encouraged it.

I do not understand your post.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Carana

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1126 on: May 09, 2015, 11:20:52 AM »
If there had been no journalists reporting on this case, we may never have heard of her.

I find that there is a world of difference between earning a living for professional work and peddling sensationalism at others' expense.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1127 on: May 09, 2015, 11:26:19 AM »
Thank you Heri.

The officers of Operation Grange may indeed be dismayed to read constantly that they are doing and achieving nothing and wasting taxpayers money while in the process.
Summers and Swan as good investigative reporters may have tapped into that discontent.

I think that the PJ and SY are following the same lines of inquiry in solving the case and may be sharing what information they can ... what a pity the inquiries remain separate, if there had been a joint working arrangement in place it would have cut a lot of red tape.

I'm sure the officers of OG will be more dismayed to find that Summers is leaking information which, allegedly, comes from their investigation and which has no right to be in the public domain at this time.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Lyall

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1128 on: May 09, 2015, 11:27:11 AM »
I do not understand your post.

Remember their Telegraph article 'If only the McCanns had known about the Algarve'?

Offline Brietta

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1129 on: May 09, 2015, 11:41:27 AM »
Remember their Telegraph article 'If only the McCanns had known about the Algarve'?

No.  You will have to provide a quote from it to progress your argument.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

OxfordBloo

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1130 on: May 09, 2015, 11:47:09 AM »

Offline Angelo222

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1131 on: May 09, 2015, 11:48:40 AM »
If there had been no journalists reporting on this case, we may never have heard of her.

I find that there is a world of difference between earning a living for professional work and peddling sensationalism at others' expense.

Stephen is right, the book adds nothing to what those of us who follow the case every day already know.  Making money out of Madeleine is a despicable way to earn a living.  Profession?  pah
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Lyall

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1132 on: May 09, 2015, 11:54:35 AM »
No.  You will have to provide a quote from it to progress your argument.

Too late for arguments or discussion now, Brietta. Their xenophobic articles and books will be around for ever, as much a part of history now as Ed Miliband's huge stone slab.

But, basically, both S&S and Finnegan used the Met's claim of eighteen unresolved incidents to tarnish the entire region (and country).

Hardly likely to encourage the Portuguese to welcome a joint investigation I would think.

Offline Angelo222

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1133 on: May 09, 2015, 11:55:06 AM »
Remember their Telegraph article 'If only the McCanns had known about the Algarve'?

The Algarve is a much safer holiday destination than many other popular resorts on the Iberian peninsula which renders the Telegraph article just a tad more waffle.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Brietta

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1134 on: May 09, 2015, 11:59:10 AM »
Too late for arguments or discussion now, Brietta. Their xenophobic articles and books will be around for ever, as much a part of history now as Ed Miliband's huge stone slab.

But, basically, both S&S and Finnegan used the Met's claim of eighteen unresolved incidents to tarnish the entire region (and country).

Hardly likely to encourage the Portuguese to welcome a joint investigation I would think.

What have the Swiss complained about?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Lyall

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1135 on: May 09, 2015, 12:11:35 PM »
The Algarve is a much safer holiday destination than many other popular resorts on the Iberian peninsula which renders the Telegraph article just a tad more waffle.

Indeed. Quoting from the book: "Had Gerry and Kate McCann known of the history of sexual assaults on tourists' children in Praia da Luz and the surrounding area, they would surely not have left their patio door unlocked to make dinner-time checks on their children easier."

At no time did the Met describe them all as "sexual assaults".

Deliberate embellishment by S&S.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1136 on: May 09, 2015, 12:23:58 PM »
Are people really so naive as to believe that Scotland Yard are leaking information to some author so that he can make announcements on their behalf?   @)(++(*

Child abduction is a whole different ball game to petty pilfering from holiday apartments and people should realise this. Always keep in mind that this book was launched for one reason and one reason only, and that reason is to make money!

Unfortunately one hell of a lot are.
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Offline Carana

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1137 on: May 09, 2015, 12:24:33 PM »
Too late for arguments or discussion now, Brietta. Their xenophobic articles and books will be around for ever, as much a part of history now as Ed Miliband's huge stone slab.

But, basically, both S&S and Finnegan used the Met's claim of eighteen unresolved incidents to tarnish the entire region (and country).

Hardly likely to encourage the Portuguese to welcome a joint investigation I would think.

I have no idea who Finnegan is, so I won't comment on that.

As regards the headline in The Telegraph article, I agree that it is potentially inflammatory for the thin-skinned, but AFAIK it's not normally those who write articles who dream up the headline.

I found the book fair, factual (despite a couple of gremlins that got through the editing process) and well-written. I haven't read the updated paperback version yet and it has been a while since I read the original version.

I don't see anyone moaning about the revelation that the scoping exercise was critical of some aspects of the UK law enforcement agencies' uncoordinated attempts to support the PJ, for example.


Offline faithlilly

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1138 on: May 09, 2015, 12:33:37 PM »
I have no idea who Finnegan is, so I won't comment on that.

As regards the headline in The Telegraph article, I agree that it is potentially inflammatory for the thin-skinned, but AFAIK it's not normally those who write articles who dream up the headline.

I found the book fair, factual (despite a couple of gremlins that got through the editing process) and well-written. I haven't read the updated paperback version yet and it has been a while since I read the original version.

I don't see anyone moaning about the revelation that the scoping exercise was critical of some aspects of the UK law enforcement agencies' uncoordinated attempts to support the PJ, for example.

Wasn't that Jim Gamble's belief and not the authors ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Benice

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1139 on: May 09, 2015, 12:35:25 PM »
Indeed. Quoting from the book: "Had Gerry and Kate McCann known of the history of sexual assaults on tourists' children in Praia da Luz and the surrounding area, they would surely not have left their patio door unlocked to make dinner-time checks on their children easier."

At no time did the Met describe them all as "sexual assaults".

Deliberate embellishment by S&S.

Quote from the Guardian  re the appeal made by SY for more information from the public regarding the assaults on British children in the Algarve.

Quote:

Det Ch Insp Andy Redwood said: "As a result of those 500 calls, we have now identified a further five sexual assaults and one near miss.    None of those six matters we were aware of prior to our appeal.

Unquote

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal