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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1140 on: May 09, 2015, 12:37:59 PM »
I'm sure the officers of OG will be more dismayed to find that Summers is leaking information which, allegedly, comes from their investigation and which has no right to be in the public domain at this time.

I think that after all the criticism of Grange they will be quite pleased

Lyall

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1141 on: May 09, 2015, 12:38:18 PM »
Quote from the Guardian  re the appeal made by SY for more information from the public regarding the assaults on British children in the Algarve.

Quote:

Det Ch Insp Andy Redwood said: "As a result of those 500 calls, we have now identified a further five sexual assaults and one near miss.    None of those six matters we were aware of prior to our appeal.

Unquote

The Met, in official documents, did not.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1142 on: May 09, 2015, 12:38:50 PM »
Indeed. Quoting from the book: "Had Gerry and Kate McCann known of the history of sexual assaults on tourists' children in Praia da Luz and the surrounding area, they would surely not have left their patio door unlocked to make dinner-time checks on their children easier."

At no time did the Met describe them all as "sexual assaults".

Deliberate embellishment by S&S.

And here was I thinking that the patio door was left unlocked for the children's benefit, not the parent's;

'She did, she brought it up and that she, I mean, this is awful in retrospect as well, she asked what my opinion was on, erm, tut, on whether they were okay leaving the, the doors unlocked, because she was saying 'Is it better that if Madeleine wakes up she can get out and find us or', erm, 'or locking it and, you know, finding that we're not there and the door's locked if she woke up', because Madeleine had woken up, what I thought was the night before. Erm, tut, and it was in that context really, just asking, you know, what I thought. So it was obviously something that was on her mind a bit, huh'.

Kate, I think, had done something that she wasn't quite happy with, in leaving the doors unlocked. And that is something again that she is going to beat herself up about for a long time to come because, you know, you, you like think that you acted on your instincts and I think her instinct was that that was something she wasn't really happy to do'.
 
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FIONA-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm

She says they felt so safe at the "family-friendly" resort they didn't think twice about leaving Madeleine and the twins - and she reveals how they'd left them alone every evening as they ate dinner in the week until Madeleine was taken on a Thursday night.
 
But she admits it was a decision that torments her with every waking moment. "We've doubted what we did," Kate says. "It's hard to answer the question, 'Were we wrong to leave them?' If I'd had to think for one second, 'Should we have dinner and leave them?' I wouldn't have done it.
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Offline Benice

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1143 on: May 09, 2015, 12:43:42 PM »
The Met, in official documents, did not.

Which official documents are you referring to please? 
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Lyall

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1144 on: May 09, 2015, 12:53:04 PM »
Which official documents are you referring to please?

The appeal and appeal update.

Offline Benice

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1145 on: May 09, 2015, 01:22:35 PM »
The appeal and appeal update.

Sorry Lyall - you've lost me.  What appeal?

You accused S&S of 'deliberate embellishment' on the grounds that the Met have never described the assaults as  'sexual'.

The Guardian's article in which they include the following direct quote from DCI Redwood shows that they did describe the assaults as sexual.

Det Ch Insp Andy Redwood said: "As a result of those 500 calls, we have now identified a further five sexual assaults and one near miss.    None of those six matters we were aware of prior to our appeal.
unquote

So no embellishment at all by S&S.

IMO to accuse them of 'deliberate embellishment' - as if it were a proven fact is libellous IMO.




The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Lyall

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1146 on: May 10, 2015, 02:07:13 PM »
Sorry Lyall - you've lost me.  What appeal?

You accused S&S of 'deliberate embellishment' on the grounds that the Met have never described the assaults as  'sexual'.

The Guardian's article in which they include the following direct quote from DCI Redwood shows that they did describe the assaults as sexual.

Det Ch Insp Andy Redwood said: "As a result of those 500 calls, we have now identified a further five sexual assaults and one near miss.    None of those six matters we were aware of prior to our appeal.
unquote

So no embellishment at all by S&S.

IMO to accuse them of 'deliberate embellishment' - as if it were a proven fact is libellous IMO.

The Met appeal that accompanied March 2014's Crimewatch.

Officers from Operation Grange investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann have today issued a further appeal for information.

During the course of their enquiries, officers have identified a potential linked series of twelve crimes which occurred between 2004 and 2010, mostly in low season, whereby a male intruder has gained access to mainly holiday villas occupied by UK families on holiday in the Western Algarve.


That one.

It's not libellous. It's merely recognition that while they could for accuracy have included the full text of the Met appeal (and update) in their books, they instead - as you say - use the words Redwood used when in front of cameras or talking to journalists.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1147 on: May 12, 2015, 12:59:13 AM »
Seems, according to Summers, all the negative reviews of his book was coordinated by Brenda Leyland.

I always wondered why she was specifically targeted. Now I think we know.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1148 on: May 12, 2015, 07:36:40 AM »
Seems, according to Summers, all the negative reviews of his book was coordinated by Brenda Leyland.

I always wondered why she was specifically targeted. Now I think we know.

Brenda was a victim of this online attack against the mccanns of which you are a part. She was a victim of the lies told by amaral which encouraged her to attack the McCanns. She was a victim of the continues lies propagated online. Brenda was  a victim....but not of the MSM...she was a victim of the  campaign against the McCanns

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1149 on: May 12, 2015, 08:01:27 AM »
Seems, according to Summers, all the negative reviews of his book was coordinated by Brenda Leyland.

I always wondered why she was specifically targeted. Now I think we know.
Cite?

What's the link between Summers and Swan and Sky News?

stephen25000

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1150 on: May 12, 2015, 08:56:11 AM »
Brenda was a victim of this online attack against the mccanns of which you are a part. She was a victim of the lies told by amaral which encouraged her to attack the McCanns. She was a victim of the continues lies propagated online. Brenda was  a victim....but not of the MSM...she was a victim of the  campaign against the McCanns

 &%&£(+ &%&£(+ &%&£(+

Offline Angelo222

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1151 on: May 12, 2015, 09:02:26 AM »
Brenda was a victim of this online attack against the mccanns of which you are a part. She was a victim of the lies told by amaral which encouraged her to attack the McCanns. She was a victim of the continues lies propagated online. Brenda was  a victim....but not of the MSM...she was a victim of the  campaign against the McCanns

Blame everyone else but those really responsible, where have I seen that before???? £5%4%
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1152 on: May 12, 2015, 09:22:03 AM »
Blame everyone else but those really responsible, where have I seen that before???? £5%4%
Faithlilly appears to now be shifting the burden of responsibility for BL's death on to Summers and Swan!

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1153 on: May 12, 2015, 10:16:22 AM »
Would that be a Black Swan perchance?
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1154 on: May 12, 2015, 10:22:37 AM »
Cite?

What's the link between Summers and Swan and Sky News?

From the updated version of Looking for Madeleine :

'
In September 2014, the day before Looking for Madeleine went on sale, a colleague let us know that members of anti- McCann Facebook groups were already labelling the book pro- McCann 'propoganda' and urging a 'fightback' . On Twitter two female anti- McCann zealots , one using the username @sweepyface- later to be identified as Brenda Leyland- the other using @portugalonline, an American maned Isabelle McFadden, discussed the notion of flooding Amazon with bad reviews. 'We need a concentrated effort on Amazon,' Leyland tweeted, 'it is really affective.'

Customer reviews on Amazon's website, which rate books by allocating stars, can have a powerful effect. Potential buyers are encouraged to say sheet a customer review of a book was helpful- or not. The more people mark a review as helpful, the more potentially that review is displayed. 'The effect of a bad review,' author Robert Groese has explained, goes far beyond the impact it gas on the author's ego.......the prominence of a book on Amazon.com is dictated by two factors: how well the book has sold and how positive the reviews are. More highly rated books are displayed more prominently, which leads to more sales.'

Brenda Leyland's and Isabelle McFadden's negative reviews, which both gave Looking for Madeleine just one star- the lowest rating- appeared rapidly on the book's Amazon sales page. Leyland also posted negative comments on some of the good reviews that had begun to appear. McFadden, who by her own admission did not have the book, based her 'review' on fifty pages she said had been emailed to her. 'I urge anyone in a position to do so,' Leyland tweeted, ' to comment on Amazon in response to the S&S ( Summers and Swann) book.......the star ratings are going down.'
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?