Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine

[Alfred R Jones]

There's a bit extra in the paperback. It's part of the history of the case Alfred.

You're a completist then. 

[Lyall]

No and the cowards certainly gave them plenty of additional evidence of their cowardly and disgusting behaviour, though I suspect that some of these so-called sceptics are actually quite proud and excited about seeing their names appear in the book.

A few reviews left on Amazon is dwarfed by what happened afterwards with Sky News.

I think S&S knew exactly what they were doing when they attacked people in their book. They wanted the reaction.

[Lyall]

You're a completist then.

Historian

[Alfred R Jones]

A few reviews left on Amazon is dwarfed by what happened afterwards with Sky News.

I think S&S knew exactly what they were doing when they attacked people in their book. They wanted the reaction.

I am very certain that they were completely shocked and stunned and upset by the hatefest that was unleashed upon them.   Who in their right minds would want that sort of a response to something they had laboured over for months? They were right to document the McCann hatefest as it is part of the story, and they were also right to be critical of those taking part in it - in fact they could have been a lot more scathing about a lot more people IMO - they were on the whole very restrained. 

[faithlilly]

No and the cowards certainly gave them plenty of additional evidence of their cowardly and disgusting behaviour, though I suspect that some of these so-called sceptics are actually quite proud and excited about seeing their names appear in the book.

Lets be clear about this. You don't have to have bought a book to have read it and while Summers and wife might not like that their book received reviews that were less than flattering, it goes with the territory. Besides its a tad hypocritical to ask your associates to post favourable reviews while complaining that someone else has asked their associates to do exactly the same, don't you think ?

[Alfred R Jones]

Lets be clear about this. You don't have to have bought a book to have read it and while Summers and wife might not like that their book received reviews that were less than flattering, it goes with the territory. Besides its a tad hypocritical to ask your associates to post favourable reviews while complaining that someone else has asked their associates to do exactly the same, don't you think ?

Could you explain the sentence highlighted above please.

[Lyall]

I am very certain that they were completely shocked and stunned and upset by the hatefest that was unleashed upon them.   Who in their right minds would want that sort of a response to something they had laboured over for months? They were right to document the McCann hatefest as it is part of the story, and they were also right to be critical of those taking part in it - in fact they could have been a lot more scathing about a lot more people IMO - they were on the whole very restrained.

I wouldn't disagree with you there. That was and is the point about Brenda - she was the wrong person.

[Alfred R Jones]

This is the "most helpful critical review" of the book according to Amazon:
 

95 of 108 people found the following review helpful

1.0 out of 5 stars  Biased and highly selective.
 The authors have recently seen fit to remove all references to this book from their Facebook page - and that is all you need to know

Ironically the review and the ratings it received is all you need to know about the credibility of those reviewing the book - clearly not interested in the actual book itself, just in teaching S & S a lesson. 

[Lyall]

This is the "most helpful critical review" of the book according to Amazon:
 



Ironically the review and the ratings it received is all you need to know about the credibility of those reviewing the book - clearly not interested in the actual book itself, just in teaching S & S a lesson.

Say I publish on Amazon, and in it call you guys cowards. Would I be surprised by the reaction?

 &%&£(+

(You don't include a word like that unless you want to provoke).

[faithlilly]

Could you explain the sentence highlighted above please.

From the book

'..' We suggested to several associates of our own that in the light of the Internet attacks- and when they had read the book- they might wish to post authentic reviews on Amazon.'

[Brietta]

I am very certain that they were completely shocked and stunned and upset by the hatefest that was unleashed upon them.   Who in their right minds would want that sort of a response to something they had laboured over for months? They were right to document the McCann hatefest as it is part of the story, and they were also right to be critical of those taking part in it - in fact they could have been a lot more scathing about a lot more people IMO - they were on the whole very restrained.

I agree with that, Alfred, who in their right minds could have anticipated the maelstrom that would be unleashed.

That the McCanns are subjected to this level of evil bullying every day of their lives is beyond shameful and beyond reason.

[Alfred R Jones]

Say I publish on Amazon, and in it call you guys cowards. Would I be surprised by the reaction?

 &%&£(+

(You don't include a word like that unless you want to provoke).

We're always being told on here that there is no lumpen mass of sceptics, that you're all individuals, with your own unique views on the case, that you are all individually "only asking questions", that there is no community, that you all act independently, so that being the case why would any one of you take exception at a blanket description "cowards" used to describe those trolls who repeatedly and often anonymously abuse and malign the McCanns and others on twitter and  social media - surely they didn't mean you, did they Lyall, or anyone else that you consider a decent, respectable "only asking questions" kinda guy...?  &%+((£

[Alfred R Jones]

From the book

'..' We suggested to several associates of our own that in the light of the Internet attacks- and when they had read the book- they might wish to post authentic reviews on Amazon.'

Why the hell not try and seek some redress for the damage caused to your reputation and livelihood?  Do you think they would have asked for this if there hadn't been such a shit-storm whipped up by your colleagues?

[faithlilly]

Say I publish on Amazon, and in it call you guys cowards. Would I be surprised by the reaction?

 &%&£(+

(You don't include a word like that unless you want to provoke).

I'm not sure what's cowardly about posting a bad review of a book you didn't like or felt was badly researched on Amazon. What else is a less than impressed reader supposed to do ? Go to the authors house and deliver his opinion face to face ? Would that be the 'brave' way to let the author know how you felt ?

[Alfred R Jones]

I'm not sure what's cowardly about posting a bad review of a book you didn't like or felt was badly researched on Amazon. What else is a less than impressed reader supposed to do ? Go to the authors house and deliver his opinion face to face ? Would that be the 'brave' way to let the author know how you felt ?

I think S & S used the word "cowards" to describe the online abuse of the McCanns - in the first edition of their book, ie: before your colleagues decided to monster their book on Amazon.