Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine

[stephen25000]

LOL -  It's so easy to be a sceptic.   Any 'assertion'  which suits is claimed to be the indisputable truth.      Any 'assertion' which does NOT suit - is simply dismissed as a lie.     Easy peasy to convince yourself of anything if you are one of the sceptics who go by that ludicrous 'rule of thumb'.   

IMO your post is libellous - unless you have evidence to back your 'assertion' up?

They were in contact with the mccanns ?

Are you denying that ?

As to your opinion, that's all it is.

An opinion.

[Alfred R Jones]

The book is shockingly researched. The fact that it doesn't have one original interview with any witness says it all really. Of course as it is on ongoing investigation the authors' hands where somewhat tied but that being the case it was a tad disingenuous to make the claims for the book which they did.

There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that the book is the most definitive and up to date on the subject currently available - or can you think of a better one?

[stephen25000]

There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that the book is the most definitive and up to date on the subject currently available - or can you think of a better one?

'There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that the book is the most definitive and up to date on the subject currently available' ?

 

[faithlilly]

There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that the book is the most definitive and up to date on the subject currently available - or can you think of a better one?

A definitive account would include the following ( thank you to the maddiecasefiles for the list )


Alves, Rogerio
Balu, Rajinder Singh
Bates, Wells & Braithwaite
Campbell, Lory
Caplan, Michael
Chekaya, Nejoua
Cristóvão, Paulo
Dâmaso, Eduardo
Dodd, Sheree
Ellis, Alexander
Felgueiras, Sandra
Freud, Clement
Frias, Pedro Miguel dos Anjos
Gaspar, Katherina Zacharias
Hogan International Firm of private investgators, headed by Noel Hogan
Hubbard, Haynes
Hubbard, Susan
Hubner, Peter J.
Hughes, David
Kennedy, Brian Nelson
Kingsley Napley
Kish, Carolyn
Lift Consulting
Linnett, Michael John
Loach, Emma
McBride, Angus
McGuiness, Justine
McKenzie, Graham
McVey, Esther
Mentorn Media
Nogueira, Cláudia
O'Donnell, Bridget
Parsons, Tony
Pinto, Marinho
Power, Glenn
Prior, Detective Inspector Stuart
Rainbow, Lee
Sargento, Professor Paulo
Skehan, Douglas
Smethurst, Edward Gerald
Smith, Jacqui
Sócrates, José
Thompson, Alan and Cincy
Tomlinson, Philip
Trickey, David
Tudor, Adam
Verão, Luis Bilro

Omitted things/events


Deleted phone calls

Discrepancies in first statements (doors etc.)

"f*** off. I'm not here to enjoy myself." (airport shuttle footage is mentioned, ends at "cheer up")

Fund = Ltd.

Fund management/directors

Fund trademark

Gaspard statement

Open car boot (airing)

Payne visit controversy

Phones, new ones in police station

Plane incident (Gerry saves someone)

Quiz mistress

Shower (Payne visit)

Suppression of e-fits.

Wallet stolen, returned

Ward of court

White angels (Payne visit)

Wikileaks cable

Yvonne Martin 'recognising' Payne

Unfortunately Summers tome doesn't.

[ferryman]

"f*** off. I'm not here to enjoy myself.

The last 6 words of that are a h*ter-myth.

Why would a "definitive account" include h*ter myths?

[stephen25000]

"f*** off. I'm not here to enjoy myself.

The last 6 words of that are a h*ter-myth.

Why would a "definitive account" include h*ter myths?

You have proof that was a myth.

Many people have seen that clip on the net.

[G-Unit]

LOL -  It's so easy to be a sceptic.   Any 'assertion'  which suits is claimed to be the indisputable truth.      Any 'assertion' which does NOT suit - is simply dismissed as a lie.     Easy peasy to convince yourself of anything if you are one of the sceptics who go by that ludicrous 'rule of thumb'.   

IMO your post is libellous - unless you have evidence to back your 'assertion' up?

That is hilarious. Everything you say about sceptics applies equally to believers. Despite the lack of evidence the abduction thesis is claimed to be the indisputable truth. Any discrepancies in the group's statements are explained by reference to their being 'distraught' or by cricising the translators of the files. Amaral is a liar and a criminal so his theory can be discounted. Easy peasy to convince yourself of anything if you are one of the believers who go by that ludicrous 'rule of thumb'.

[ferryman]

You have proof that was a myth.

Many people have seen that clip on the net.

I've heard the clip.

[Benice]

Another credible theory.

There are two at least.

Now briefly remind me of what credible and quantitative evidence exists for abduction.

As to the lack of sales, pray tell me , where is the book in the sales charts ?

It's never been in the top 100 or 200..

So is it a best seller benice ?

Perhaps on another thread you could remind me of those 2 credible alternative theories which you are asserting exist.   I must have missed them -  (along with SY and the PJ).

To get back on topic - which 'Sales charts' are you referring to?  Would you please clarify?

[faithlilly]

I've heard the clip.

So gave I.

[stephen25000]

Perhaps on another thread you could remind me of those 2 credible alternative theories which you are asserting exist.   I must have missed them -  (along with SY and the PJ).

To get back on topic - which 'Sales charts' are you referring to?  Would you please clarify?

They have already been discussed numerous times.

Meanwhile,I presume you know how to look for charts of book sales ?

[Benice]

They were in contact with the mccanns ?

Are you denying that ?

As to your opinion, that's all it is.

An opinion.

Please provide evidence of your assertion that the McCanns fully co-operated with S&S in the writing of their book. 

[Alfred R Jones]

A definitive account would include the following ( thank you to the maddiecasefiles for the list )


Alves, Rogerio
Balu, Rajinder Singh
Bates, Wells & Braithwaite
Campbell, Lory
Caplan, Michael
Chekaya, Nejoua
Cristóvão, Paulo
Dâmaso, Eduardo
Dodd, Sheree
Ellis, Alexander
Felgueiras, Sandra
Freud, Clement
Frias, Pedro Miguel dos Anjos
Gaspar, Katherina Zacharias
Hogan International Firm of private investgators, headed by Noel Hogan
Hubbard, Haynes
Hubbard, Susan
Hubner, Peter J.
Hughes, David
Kennedy, Brian Nelson
Kingsley Napley
Kish, Carolyn
Lift Consulting
Linnett, Michael John
Loach, Emma
McBride, Angus
McGuiness, Justine
McKenzie, Graham
McVey, Esther
Mentorn Media
Nogueira, Cláudia
O'Donnell, Bridget
Parsons, Tony
Pinto, Marinho
Power, Glenn
Prior, Detective Inspector Stuart
Rainbow, Lee
Sargento, Professor Paulo
Skehan, Douglas
Smethurst, Edward Gerald
Smith, Jacqui
Sócrates, José
Thompson, Alan and Cincy
Tomlinson, Philip
Trickey, David
Tudor, Adam
Verão, Luis Bilro

Omitted things/events


Deleted phone calls

Discrepancies in first statements (doors etc.)

"f*** off. I'm not here to enjoy myself." (airport shuttle footage is mentioned, ends at "cheer up")

Fund = Ltd.

Fund management/directors

Fund trademark

Gaspard statement

Open car boot (airing)

Payne visit controversy

Phones, new ones in police station

Plane incident (Gerry saves someone)

Quiz mistress

Shower (Payne visit)

Suppression of e-fits.

Wallet stolen, returned

Ward of court

White angels (Payne visit)

Wikileaks cable

Yvonne Martin 'recognising' Payne

Unfortunately Summers tome doesn't.

This would be an account of interest only to complete McCann obsessives.  "Wallet stolen, returned" - I mean, get a grip FGS.  Why not include "smiles outside church", "money box that looks like an urn on the mantelpiece", and "lichen on the windowsill" while you're at it? 

[Brietta]

This would be an account of interest only to complete McCann obsessives.  "Wallet stolen, returned" - I mean, get a grip FGS.  Why not include "smiles outside church", "money box that looks like an urn on the mantelpiece", and "lichen on the windowsill" while you're at it?

If S&S had included every debunked myth and delusion in their book I think it would have required at least a further four or five volumes ... and that is a conservative estimate.

[ferryman]

So have I.

In which case you will know that I'm not here to enjoy myself is a myth ...