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Offline Brietta

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1290 on: May 14, 2015, 10:52:26 AM »
So you know the exact sales figures ?

As regards donations to Amaral, still early days yet.

You seem to be the expert on sales figures and reviews and all things S&S ... so I think that can be safely left to you ... as far as the donations to Mr Amaral's appeal fund goes ... when one takes in the matching funds donated from Portugal ... he must be nearly there?
                                                              8**8:/:     
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Benice

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1291 on: May 14, 2015, 10:55:34 AM »
I wonder if they include John Stalker in that?

“My gut instinct is that some big secret is probably being covered up.
“I have watched the investigation into the Madeleine McCann case drag out for six months.
“One thing above all worries me: Why have the McCanns and the seven other members of their group – the Tapas Nine – remained so silent?
“Unlike other high-profile cases I have worked on, not one of them has been prepared to break ranks or really come out and support each other.
“After all this time and pressure, I cannot believe that nobody wants to speak.
“I have a real suspicion that we are not being told the whole truth. There is something else there, some issue that members of the party are embarrassed about”


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Didn't John Stalker write that in 2007?    IMO it is crystal clear that he had no knowledge of the Secrecy laws at the time - otherwise he would have known why no-one had spoken out - which appeared to be the one thing that worried him 8 years ago.   I'm sure he has long since been enlightened on that score and is no longer 'worried'.   

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

ferryman

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1292 on: May 14, 2015, 10:55:51 AM »
MCCANNS ‘ARE HIDING A BIG SECRET’
Sunday October 28 2007
By John Stalker

I have watched the investigation into the Madeleine McCann case drag on for six months.

One thing above all worries me: Why have the McCanns and the seven other members of their group – the Tapas Nine – remained so silent? My gut instinct is that some big secret is probably being covered up.

Unlike other high-profile cases I have worked on, not one of them has been prepared to break ranks or really come out and support each other. After all this time and pressure, I cannot believe that nobody wants to speak.

Their answer has always been no comment but there is surely some division between them. So what are they hiding? I have a real suspicion that we are not being told the whole truth.

There is something else there, some issue that members of the party are embarrassed about.

While they continue to refuse to talk it is unlikely that we will find out what it is for a very long time but one thing is certain – it will eventually come out.

The sad fact is that we still have a missing girl and I believe the investigation will be focusing on the theory that she is dead.

The likeliest scenario is that her abductor panicked when he realised the attention the case was creating and killed her days after snatching her.

My fear now is that unless we find her body or her killer strikes again we will never know what really happened to that tiny child.

My instinct, based on years of policing similar cases, is that we are looking at an abduction where the child was targeted in the days before her disappearance.

On the night she vanished it is likely that her abductor simply spotted his opportunity and struck while he could.


I have been horrified by the abject failure of the Portuguese detectives to adhere to basic principles of policing.

The investigation does not seem to have taken a step forward from where it was in the first week after she went missing. I cannot believe that the Portuguese only sent selected DNA samples to the forensic science lab in Birmingham.

There is absolutely no sense in that whatsoever. To fully evaluate poor-quality DNA traces, as we believe these were, forensic experts need to see the whole picture.

In the past, when I have dealt with traces of bodily fluids, it is very difficult to establish how they got to be where they were.

All DNA is highly transferable and that is the most likely explanation for the alleged traces found in the McCanns’ hire car and on her mother’s clothing. Robert Murat, the other suspect, was seen close to the apartment the day after Madeleine disappeared and freely admits having helped police as a translator.

If he was in that apartment, or anywhere near it, ther is no doubt he would have transferred some of Madeleine’s or the twins’ DNA on to his clothing.

I don’t believe for one minute that Kate and Gerry McCann or their friends are capable or guilty of having murdered the four-year-old.

All the criticism of Kate and Gerry and their friends has been completely out of order. They are extremely intelligent and articulate people and, just because they have never visibly cracked in public to the extent that they are beaten, does not mean that they are guilty of anything sinister.


Yes, they have had more doors opened for them than other people would have in similar circumstances, but their main aim is to discover what happened to Madeleine. That should be the aim of all concerned.

But my gut instinct still forces me to wonder: What is the secret that the Tapas Nine are so carefully hiding?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1293 on: May 14, 2015, 11:44:28 AM »
An article, unfortunately, that cannot be verified as it has gone.
Read and abide by the forum rules.
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Offline Anna

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1294 on: May 14, 2015, 12:24:01 PM »
An article, unfortunately, that cannot be verified as it has gone.

Is this it in screenshots?

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/6oct7/EXPRESS-28-10-07.htm
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline Anna

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1295 on: May 14, 2015, 12:25:36 PM »
Anna, that passage you quote is a good example of why they deserve the bad reviews %£&)**#

It's emotional manipulation. Anyone as much on TV as the McCanns were will get disturbed and/or starstruck people writing to them, but S&S want readers to think everything that ended up in their Nutty Box was sent by those horrible online people.

That's dishonesty Anna.

Are you accusing S&S of lying?
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1296 on: May 14, 2015, 12:41:34 PM »
Are you accusing S&S of lying?

Such an ugly word.
Edmund Burke late 18th century:
"Falsehood and delusion are allowed in no case whatsoever: But, as in the exercise of all the virtues, there is an economy of truth."
Hilary Clinton 21st century
"It seems I may have been guilty of misspeaking"
Sir Robert Armstrong 1986
Lawyer: What is the difference between a misleading impression and a lie?
Armstrong: A lie is a straight untruth.
Lawyer: What is a misleading impression - a sort of bent untruth?
Armstrong: As one person said, it is perhaps being "economical with the truth".

One does not have to lie to convey a false or distorted message; there are different ways of telling the truth.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Carana

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1297 on: May 14, 2015, 02:49:52 PM »
Such an ugly word.
Edmund Burke late 18th century:
"Falsehood and delusion are allowed in no case whatsoever: But, as in the exercise of all the virtues, there is an economy of truth."
Hilary Clinton 21st century
"It seems I may have been guilty of misspeaking"
Sir Robert Armstrong 1986
Lawyer: What is the difference between a misleading impression and a lie?
Armstrong: A lie is a straight untruth.
Lawyer: What is a misleading impression - a sort of bent untruth?
Armstrong: As one person said, it is perhaps being "economical with the truth".

One does not have to lie to convey a false or distorted message; there are different ways of telling the truth.



LOL I notice that you missed one out.... something to do with the other Clinton. ;)

stephen25000

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1298 on: May 14, 2015, 05:39:16 PM »
You seem to be the expert on sales figures and reviews and all things S&S ... so I think that can be safely left to you ... as far as the donations to Mr Amaral's appeal fund goes ... when one takes in the matching funds donated from Portugal ... he must be nearly there?
                                                              8**8:/:   

Now don't worry brietta.

He will get there. 8)--))

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1299 on: May 14, 2015, 05:52:26 PM »


LOL I notice that you missed one out.... something to do with the other Clinton. ;)

Legend has it that under Arkansas law, where he had practiced, his statement was true as it did not constitute a .......

"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Online Eleanor

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1300 on: May 14, 2015, 05:59:23 PM »
Now don't worry brietta.

He will get there. 8)--))

Of course he will get there.  Although I have to say that I am impressed.  But I don't think anyone here minds about that.

I want to see the culmination of what appears to me to be bizarre Portuguese Law.  But so far, I can't even fault that.

But I am enormously grateful for the opportunity to see it in action.

Online Eleanor

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1301 on: May 14, 2015, 06:01:18 PM »

Sorry.  We are going Off Topic again.  Could we get back on track again, please.

PS.  This is not a request.

Lyall

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1302 on: May 14, 2015, 09:51:43 PM »
Are you accusing S&S of lying?

Nobody lies anymore Anna. They spin (consciously or otherwise - I don't doubt S&S are sincere in what they believe, and in their desire to help Madeleine's parents).

Offline faithlilly

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1303 on: May 14, 2015, 10:34:24 PM »
Nobody lies anymore Anna. They spin (consciously or otherwise - I don't doubt S&S are sincere in what they believe, and in their desire to help Madeleine's parents).

Is that really the job of an investigative journalist though?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1304 on: May 14, 2015, 11:01:28 PM »
Is that really the job of an investigative journalist though?

Doesn't that depend on whether or not they say what you want to hear?
People look far enough to see what they want to see and listen long enough to hear what they want to hear.
Prejudice rules OK?  8(0(*
I am surprised that 10 months down the track a lightweight book remains the topic of discussion.
Put it to the test; go down your local spit and saw dust or trendy wine bar and say "Here what do you think of Summers' and Swan's book on Madeleine".
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey