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stephen25000

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1320 on: May 16, 2015, 08:40:17 AM »
The point is davel that the book is not impartial and to put it bluntly seeks to crawl up the McCanns asses.

Nicely put Angelo.

Having read the first page last time,it made me feel slightly nauseous.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1321 on: May 16, 2015, 08:40:57 AM »
The point is davel that the book is not impartial and to put it bluntly seeks to crawl up the McCanns asses.

so again no instances of inaccuracies...the book appears impartial because it is accurate...you can't criticise a book for being accurate

Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #1322 on: May 16, 2015, 08:42:20 AM »
so again no instances of inaccuracies...the book appears impartial because it is accurate...you can't criticise a book for being accurate

It isn't accurate.

The locked child gate.

End of.
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stephen25000

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1323 on: May 16, 2015, 08:45:04 AM »
so again no instances of inaccuracies...the book appears impartial because it is accurate...you can't criticise a book for being accurate

It is not impartial.

It's merely about  adoration of the mccanns by a pair of so called investigators.

Offline Angelo222

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1324 on: May 16, 2015, 08:48:19 AM »
so no actual quotes where the book is inaccurate just the usual mud slinging from the usual posters

Did the book reflect accurately Kate McCanns refusal to cooperate with the detectives?

Did it report on who paid Correia to represent Leonor Cipriano in her case against Amaral?

Maybe some day we will get a book reporting on what really took place.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1325 on: May 16, 2015, 09:40:14 AM »
Did the book reflect accurately Kate McCanns refusal to cooperate with the detectives?

Did it report on who paid Correia to represent Leonor Cipriano in her case against Amaral?

Maybe some day we will get a book reporting on what really took place.

Kate answered 19 hrs of questions...but when the whole of the investigating team..according to amaral...had decided she was guilty because they completely misunderstood the evidence...she was advised by her lawyer not to answer any more

stephen25000

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1326 on: May 16, 2015, 09:48:31 AM »
Kate answered 19 hrs of questions...but when the whole of the investigating team..according to amaral...had decided she was guilty because they completely misunderstood the evidence...she was advised by her lawyer not to answer any more

What questions dave ?

and what about the 48 she refused to answer ?

Offline Brietta

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1327 on: May 16, 2015, 09:58:31 AM »
De book is an abject failure in that it fails totally to uphold the first principle of investigative writing and that is to keep all options open in an unsolved case.

It is a book written to reflect the time of 2015 when against all the odds Madeleine McCann's case has been reopened by the authorities in Portugal and here.

The book written eight years ago reflects that time.  It unfortunately highlights an investigation which failed to uphold the principles you consider important in investigative journalism and which I consider paramount in policing and that is to keep all options open.

The theory was followed ... not the evidence.  The chief investigator saw everything through the prism of his own prejudices and experience ... both seriously flawed.

That Summers and Swan are even handed authors is reflected in the slight manner in which this incompetence is reported ... I wonder if they now in retrospect regret not actually doing the hatchet job they could have.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

stephen25000

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1328 on: May 16, 2015, 10:00:44 AM »
It is a book written to reflect the time of 2015 when against all the odds Madeleine McCann's case has been reopened by the authorities in Portugal and here.

The book written eight years ago reflects that time.  It unfortunately highlights an investigation which failed to uphold the principles you consider important in investigative journalism and which I consider paramount in policing and that is to keep all options open.

The theory was followed ... not the evidence.  The chief investigator saw everything through the prism of his own prejudices and experience ... both seriously flawed.

That Summers and Swan are even handed authors is reflected in the slight manner in which this incompetence is reported ... I wonder if they now in retrospect regret not actually doing the hatchet job they could have.


The first page says everything about the book.

Mere adoration of all things mccann.

Offline Brietta

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1329 on: May 16, 2015, 10:01:57 AM »
Did the book reflect accurately Kate McCanns refusal to cooperate with the detectives?

Did it report on who paid Correia to represent Leonor Cipriano in her case against Amaral?

Maybe some day we will get a book reporting on what really took place.

I was of the opinion you believe that book has already been written.  8)--))
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Lace

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1330 on: May 16, 2015, 10:02:22 AM »
It isn't accurate.

The locked child gate.

End of.

Well,  aren't child gates supposed to be locked so that a child can't open it?   Otherwise what would be the point of a child gate?     Adults would be able to open it obviously.

Offline Lace

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1331 on: May 16, 2015, 10:06:08 AM »
What questions dave ?

and what about the 48 she refused to answer ?

I believe Davel has already answered that question in his post Stephen,   Kate was advised not to answer any more questions by her lawyer.

stephen25000

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1332 on: May 16, 2015, 10:07:22 AM »
I believe Davel has already answered that question in his post Stephen,   Kate was advised not to answer any more questions by her lawyer.

............and we know why as well.

Just in case her answers contradicted her husband's version of events.

Offline Benice

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1333 on: May 16, 2015, 10:27:10 AM »
What questions dave ?

and what about the 48 she refused to answer ?

You are in a foreign country and you know that a policeman who is already an Arguido suspected of being involved in the torture of the mother in his last missing child case is trying to frame you .

What do you do?    Well that's obvious isn't it?    You ignore your lawyer's advice and do everything in your power to help this crooked policeman to frame you.    Yeah right.

I'm not surprised if you think Kate should have answered the questions Stephen -  because not only do you purport to know better than the officers of SY,  better than the officers of the PJ, and better than the Portuguese AG - no doubt you also purport to know better than Kate's Portuguese lawyer who gave her the advice which she followed.

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

stephen25000

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1334 on: May 16, 2015, 10:34:29 AM »
You are in a foreign country and you know that a policeman who is already an Arguido suspected of being involved in the torture of the mother in his last missing child case is trying to frame you .

What do you do?    Well that's obvious isn't it?    You ignore your lawyer's advice and do everything in your power to help this crooked policeman to frame you.    Yeah right.

I'm not surprised if you think Kate should have answered the questions Stephen -  because not only do you purport to know better than the officers of SY,  better than the officers of the PJ, and better than the Portuguese AG - no doubt you also purport to know better than Kate's Portuguese lawyer who gave her the advice which she followed.


'You are in a foreign country and you know that a policeman who is already an Arguido suspected of being involved in the torture of the mother in his last missing child case is trying to frame you .'


So when did the mccanns first know about the Cipriano case then ?

and of course Amaral didn't torture Cipriano.