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stephen25000

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1470 on: January 09, 2016, 09:24:29 AM »
So, any news on the sales of this book, feigning to the mccanns ?



Offline Mr Gray

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1471 on: January 09, 2016, 09:38:46 AM »
So, any news on the sales of this book, feigning to the mccanns ?




any news on sonias docu that you and other sceptics were so anxiously waiting for

stephen25000

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1472 on: January 09, 2016, 09:46:05 AM »

any news on sonias docu that you and other sceptics were so anxiously waiting for

I'm not in the slightest bit anxious.

You have some very strange ideas &%5y%

Offline mercury

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1473 on: January 10, 2016, 12:20:27 AM »
That book was a very strange affair overall, what was the purpose, what was the result, did it achieve anything?


Offline Brietta

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1474 on: January 10, 2016, 01:02:02 AM »
That book was a very strange affair overall, what was the purpose, what was the result, did it achieve anything?

Hmmmm ... the Summers and Swan book might not have had quite the impact the Amaral book.  On the other hand no-one is suing them ... so at least they managed not to libel anyone in it.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline faithlilly

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1475 on: January 10, 2016, 12:59:56 PM »
Hmmmm ... the Summers and Swan book might not have had quite the impact the Amaral book.  On the other hand no-one is suing them ... so at least they managed not to libel anyone in it.

And there is the crux of the matter. Summers and wife would never gave been able to publish a book in this country that questions the McCanns. So what was the point ? For example the last visit by a non-family member, David Payne, and the questions surrounding his and Kate's differing memories of that visit warrant barely a mention.

'Carlo's first concern was to point out that no-one except her parents and David Payne, who dropped in at  apartment  5a at some point early in the evening- had seen Madeleine between 5.35pm and around 10pm'

That's it ! No mention of Gerry asking him to go, no mention of the anomalies regarding the visit within the statements of the main protagonists, not even a mention of the time the visit actually took place.

How can a truly objective, investigative piece of writing dismiss so nonchalantly the last non-family member to see the missing child when there are still so many questions surrounding that visit ?  Whether those anomalies don't add up to a hill-o-beans, in a truly objective piece those questions must still be asked or what's the point in 'investigating' ?
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1476 on: January 10, 2016, 02:31:58 PM »
And there is the crux of the matter. Summers and wife would never gave been able to publish a book in this country that questions the McCanns. So what was the point ? For example the last visit by a non-family member, David Payne, and the questions surrounding his and Kate's differing memories of that visit warrant barely a mention.

'Carlo's first concern was to point out that no-one except her parents and David Payne, who dropped in at  apartment  5a at some point early in the evening- had seen Madeleine between 5.35pm and around 10pm'

That's it ! No mention of Gerry asking him to go, no mention of the anomalies regarding the visit within the statements of the main protagonists, not even a mention of the time the visit actually took place.

How can a truly objective, investigative piece of writing dismiss so nonchalantly the last non-family member to see the missing child when there are still so many questions surrounding that visit ?  Whether those anomalies don't add up to a hill-o-beans, in a truly objective piece those questions must still be asked or what's the point in 'investigating' ?

Because it isn't a truly etc...............
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Offline Brietta

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1477 on: January 10, 2016, 07:59:10 PM »
Because it isn't a truly etc...............

Quite simply Summers and Swan relied on the known facts of the matter, did not deliberately blacken anyone's name, told no lies about anyone.  Just responsible investigative journalism, pity there isn't a bit more of it about.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1478 on: January 10, 2016, 08:03:26 PM »
Quite simply Summers and Swan relied on the known facts of the matter, did not deliberately blacken anyone's name, told no lies about anyone.  Just responsible investigative journalism, pity there isn't a bit more of it about.

Bit of a contradiction in terms really.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1479 on: January 10, 2016, 08:21:02 PM »
Quite simply Summers and Swan relied on the known facts of the matter, did not deliberately blacken anyone's name, told no lies about anyone.  Just responsible investigative journalism, pity there isn't a bit more of it about.

It requires an imaginative mind and verbose turn of phrase to write a whole book based on the known facts.
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stephen25000

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1480 on: January 10, 2016, 09:43:17 PM »
It requires an imaginative mind and verbose turn of phrase to write a whole book based on the known facts.

The nature of the 'book' is clearly displayed on the first page of chapter 1.

It reads like a page of romantic fiction. IMO,  of course.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1481 on: January 10, 2016, 09:46:44 PM »
The nature of the 'book' is clearly displayed on the first page of chapter 1.

It reads like a page of romantic fiction. IMO,  of course.

the book is totally unimportant to the case...as I remember the McCanns did not even give them an interview

Offline mercury

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« Reply #1482 on: January 10, 2016, 09:54:13 PM »
Quite simply Summers and Swan relied on the known facts of the matter, did not deliberately blacken anyone's name, told no lies about anyone.  Just responsible investigative journalism, pity there isn't a bit more of it about.

But what did they investigate? Anybody could have written that book. No investigation required. They brought nothng new. Private dicks in the usa working for tv companies came up with more with on the ground findings.

Just another "account of the truth" imo


Offline Brietta

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1483 on: January 10, 2016, 09:54:55 PM »
Bit of a contradiction in terms really.

I do not see the contradiction in investigative journalists piecing together the 'known facts' of an investigation in a book.

"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #1484 on: January 10, 2016, 10:00:36 PM »
It requires an imaginative mind and verbose turn of phrase to write a whole book based on the known facts.

Perhaps you bought it and read it to enable such a review?  Perhaps there are those who purchased it and read it who formed an entirely different perspective.
I think the value of the book may lie in the presentation of an unbiased assessment of what is known of Madeleine McCann's case for those who have little knowledge of it.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....