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Offline Eleanor

I have watched all 4 films. Something which maybe could have been included but wasn't, is the apparent selective redaction of some telephone numbers in the phone records as presented in the files. BTW the Guardian reported that the phone analyses were done by UK analysts. We know there were calls from or to TBlair, Gbrown, DMilliband, MBeckett, CR, and other high powered people. Would it be strange if the redacted numbers were to correspond to these peeps?

Why would it be strange?  Serious question.

Offline pegasus

Why would it be strange?  Serious question.
Because an concealing of numbers from the PJ would be incorrect.
The PJ would need to see every number to see who had been communicating.
For example take the calls during trip to search for the missing child at Fatima - in the phone records as presented to the PJ in the files, one or more numbers have been totally blanked out, that meant it was impossible for PJ to see who those calls were with.

So that's one thing these 4 films omit, but then is it even possible to fully document the extraordinary amount of PI company and government involvement in only 4 films?
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Offline Eleanor

Because an concealing of numbers from the PJ would be incorrect.
The PJ would need to see every number to see who had been communicating.
For example take the calls during trip to search for the missing child at Fatima - in the phone records as presented to the PJ in the files, one or more numbers have been totally blanked out, that meant it was impossible for PJ to see who those calls were with.

So that's one thing these 4 films omit, but then is it even possible to fully document the extraordinary amount of PI company and government involvement in only 4 films?

Surely The PJ will have had these numbers.  Perhaps they were blanked out to stop butters phoning whoever they were.

There was a lot of time wasted on those films, repeating things over and over.  40 minutes on the visit David Payne made to 5A that evening.  That was stunningly boring.

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Because an concealing of numbers from the PJ would be incorrect.
The PJ would need to see every number to see who had been communicating.
For example take the calls during trip to search for the missing child at Fatima - in the phone records as presented to the PJ in the files, one or more numbers have been totally blanked out, that meant it was impossible for PJ to see who those calls were with.

So that's one thing these 4 films omit, but then is it even possible to fully document the extraordinary amount of PI company and government involvement in only 4 films?

Are they blanked out on the official files, or just on PJ Files site? I will take a look on dvd's later.
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Offline pegasus

Are they blanked out on the official files, or just on PJ Files site? I will take a look on dvd's later.
blanked out in the official files.
For incoming voice calls, the selective blanking of numbers begins at 09:05 on the morning of 4th May
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/oa/OA_VOD/OA_11_VOD_Page_097.jpg
and continues through to September.
BTW do you have the actual DVDs?
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Offline pathfinder73

Surely The PJ will have had these numbers.  Perhaps they were blanked out to stop butters phoning whoever they were.

There was a lot of time wasted on those films, repeating things over and over.  40 minutes on the visit David Payne made to 5A that evening.  That was stunningly boring.

It's very important and alarm bells will be ringing at the yard.

"Gerry had asked me just to pop in and check everything was alright err with Kate or you know again I can't remember the exact reason whether he was just making sure it was alright that he could stay there and you know more time but you know he'd asked me to pop in."

Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Jean-Pierre

It's very important and alarm bells will be ringing at the yard.

"Gerry had asked me just to pop in and check everything was alright err with Kate or you know again I can't remember the exact reason whether he was just making sure it was alright that he could stay there and you know more time but you know he'd asked me to pop in."


Has anyone actually bothered to read some of this chaps "work"?

And still take him seriously?

This exchange with Nick Clegg is IMO quite instructive

http://www.richplanet.net/letters/MP023.php


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Well I got half way through the 2 nd video before I turned it off.

He is as compelling to listen to as a speech by William Hague.

As believable as Marcos Aragao Correia being a forthright investigator.


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In general, I am miffed that the speakers have packed up on my computer.

But there might be the odd blessing ...

Offline Brietta

Well I got half way through the 2 nd video before I turned it off.

He is as compelling to listen to as a speech by William Hague.

As believable as Marcos Aragao Correia being a forthright investigator.

I am in awe of those members who have had the stamina to make the attempt to watch these videos to enable informed discussion.

Having been put off entirely by his obvious lack of research very early into video one (the John Stalker selective quotations) I changed tack and did a wee bit of research into the man himself and his former works.

Based on that my prediction is that after the first flurry of excitement, we are not going to hear a great deal more about this chap and his theories.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline jassi

I am in awe of those members who have had the stamina to make the attempt to watch these videos to enable informed discussion.

Having been put off entirely by his obvious lack of research very early into video one (the John Stalker selective quotations) I changed tack and did a wee bit of research into the man himself and his former works.

Based on that my prediction is that after the first flurry of excitement, we are not going to hear a great deal more about this chap and his theories.

Or, at least, that's what you hope.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Brietta

Or, at least, that's what you hope.

I sincerely hope not.

Anyone who promotes what this man opines runs the risk of being slotted in with the rest of the tinfoil hat brigade; and anyway we are pretty soon going to have well researched book to quote from.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Jean-Pierre

Or, at least, that's what you hope.

Its a predicition, Jassi.

But if he keeps on writing and publsihing at least it keeps all the conspiracy theorists and tin foil hat brigade happily and harmlessly occupied. 

Offline jassi

I sincerely hope not.

Anyone who promotes what this man opines runs the risk of being slotted in with the rest of the tinfoil hat brigade; and anyway we are pretty soon going to have well researched book to quote from.


Is that the one that's going to be put on line in installments and will be freely available to all?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Jean-Pierre


Is that the one that's going to be put on line in installments and will be freely available to all?

No - this is one by professional, proper authors.

Freely available from good bookshops, and of course free from the public library.   ?{)(**