Jeremy Bamber - Review of Whole Life Tariff - European Court

[Admin]

Before the penny dropped he said something which got me thinking.  He more or less admitted that Jeremy wanted to do things his own way and was the driving force behind his own campaign.  It was his way or no way!

He was also adamant that there was a third party which I put down to Bamber himself.  This is the story Bamber told Julie Mugford and has probably told Stefan the same sorry tale.

Stefan does not seem to have got to grips with the Bamber story and couldn't even accept that by the evidence and the imaginary telephone call that it had to be Jeremy Bamber or Sheila Caffell.  His response to that question was "not necessarily".

It is only fair to reproduce his last comments before he blocked us.

When asked if his trial in January would detract from his latest campaign to expose fraud at Rangers FC he replied:



21 Jul GIOVANNI DI STEFANO GIOVANNI DI STEFANO ‏@DEVILSADVOKAT

@Justice_forum you mean "IF" there is to be a trial ... I am shareholder in RFC abd I will pursue my shareholder rights whatever and don't think for one moment I am fooled into believing your loyalty and support for RFC you are there to try and discredit me and any that support RFC through a vehicle pretending to stand up for justice ... It does not fool me or real RFC supporters


Did he say discredit?  We believe his record speaks for itself. 

As regards the trial in London in January, time will tell.     

 
 

[Sandy]

It was rather amusing the other day when admin had an encounter with none other than Giovanni di Stefano.



Some will know of his colourful past when he claimed to be a lawyer and acted in some capacity for many monsters such as Saddam Hussein, Harold Shipman, Charles Bronson, Ian Brady, Tariq Aziz and indeed Jeremy Bamber.  Just to give you a little more insight, he was an friend and associate of former Serbian warlord Arkan who was gunned down in the lobby of a Belgrade hotel.  I should add that he has also a long list of criminal convictions for fraud, has denied many of them when he was convicted as John Stefano (Giovanni means John in Italian).  Just recently he was arrested in Spain on charges alleging further fraud and extradited back to the UK where he is now on bail.  A trial date has been set for January 2013.

You can read all about him here... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_Di_Stefano_%28businessman%29

What I just don't get is how people like him can get anywhere near the courts pretending to be a lawyer.  He must have some bare faced cheek and the knowledge to do it.  I also notice that he isn't qualified in his home country of Italy or anywhere else by the looks of it.  How many times has he been extradited exactly cause he must have the record he was even deported from the USA by the looks of it.

[John]

As admin posts, time will tell whether there is a trial in January or not but I cannot see the CPS going to the bother of having him arrested in Spain and brought back if they were to then turn round and abandon the case against him.

Spain arrests lawyer linked to Saddam defense team

An Italian lawyer who acted as a consultant to Saddam Hussein's defense team has been arrested in Spain on suspicion of fraud, money laundering and practicing law without a licence on a warrant issued by Britain, officials said Tuesday.

Giovanni di Stefano was arrested Monday night in a mansion in Palma on Spain's Mediterranean island of Mallorca, a police official said.

Di Stefano was hospitalized after his arrest and will undergo surgery, the official said without elaborating. She spoke from Palma on condition on anonymity, in line with department rules.

Di Stefano has been living in Palma but the official said she did not know for how long.

An Interior Ministry statement said that between 2004 and 2009 di Stefano allegedly earned large sums of money in Britain, apparently without being licensed to practice law in that country. The statement quoted the European arrest order on the basis of which di Stefano was arrested.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/9502623

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1357284/Saddam-Hussein-Gary-Glitter-Ian-Bradys-lawyer-arrested-fraud.html

[John]

Its a long road trip in a Spanish prison bus from Palma to Madrid so Giovanni has my sympathies.  I believe they sometimes stop off at another Spanish prison on the way to split the journey.

I wonder what he thought of Centro Penitenciario de Valdemoro, also known as Madrid III as he enjoyed a short stay near Spain's capital city while awaiting his extradition hearing and transfer to London.



Been there Giovanni, worn the t-shirt mate!   

[goatboy]

In an interview he once said Saddam and Milosovic were nice people....no wonder he got on so well with Jeremy!

[Joanne]

Does anyone think that if JB got out (which he won't), he try to make money from the glossy's (mags), the papers (tabloids), book deals or fil/programme deals etc? Or compensation from being locked up (which I believe is notoriously hard to get even for proven non-guilty people)?

[John]

In an interview he once said Saddam and Milosovic were nice people....no wonder he got on so well with Jeremy!

...and now he wants to be the saviour of Rangers FC...what is that all about?

[John]

Does anyone think that if JB got out (which he won't), he try to make money from the glossy's (mags), the papers (tabloids), book deals or fil/programme deals etc? Or compensation from being locked up (which I believe is notoriously hard to get even for proven non-guilty people)?

Well yes given that he is effectively penniless.   If he were ever to get parole it would probably be on condition of that parole that he is gagged just like Eddie Gilfoyle was.

[Joanne]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7we7CsYptU&feature=related

Do watch this, I taped it when it was on way back, if nothing else it's funny and you'll see why he is indeed the 'devils advocate'.

[starryian]

Does anyone think that if JB got out (which he won't), he try to make money from the glossy's (mags), the papers (tabloids), book deals or fil/programme deals etc? Or compensation from being locked up (which I believe is notoriously hard to get even for proven non-guilty people)?

I agree Joanne,
That's exactly what Bamber would do. There are precedents - who can forget O.J Simpson's revoltingly tacky book after he was 'acquitted' that suggested if he was guilty 'this is how I would do it' and of course Sion Jenkins rather sanctimonious and bleating account of why he wasn't guilty (I think he is) of the murder of his step-daughter Billie-Jo Jenkins.While I totally agree with those who have been exonerated of a crime writing a book to inform others about possible Miscarriages of Justice, I do believe that there are some people that I believe to be guilty and have simply slipped through the net (thankfully I think this is rare) If Bamber ever did get out I have absolutely no doubt that he would - true-to-form - try to capitalise on it in a tacky, vulgar and undignified manner.
However, I am quite confident that this will never happen as Bamber will be incarcerated until the day he dies.

[John]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7we7CsYptU&feature=related

Do watch this, I taped it when it was on way back, if nothing else it's funny and you'll see why he is indeed the 'devils advocate'.

Excellent find Joanne.  He refers to himself as a lawyer.  That's the biggest lie!  He claims to be a member of the American Bar Association which is fair enough.  He even showed reporters a card showing him to be a member of the Association in 2004. This was confirmed by a spokesman for the organisation, who added: "Membership of the ABA does not qualify its members to practice law, nor is it a requirement to be admitted to the practice of law."

There you have it as they say!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1452809/Judge-asks-convicted-fraudster-to-prove-he-is-a-lawyer.html

[Joanne]

I've got Fred Dineage on in the background, he's just done a programme about Ruth Ellis. He came up with a conundrum,no one could work it out, so I'll ask you guys (and girls).
There's a massive crash on the M25 and in a car a man dies, in the same car is his small son who paramedics take to the hospital. At the hospital the surgeon says, "I cannot operate on him, he's my son"-how come?

[Harvey]

I've got Fred Dineage on in the background, he's just done a programme about Ruth Ellis. He came up with a conundrum,no one could work it out, so I'll ask you guys (and girls).
There's a massive crash on the M25 and in a car a man dies, in the same car is his small son who paramedics take to the hospital. At the hospital the surgeon says, "I cannot operate on him, he's my son"-how come?

Step son possibly?   8-)(--)

[Joanne]

Great answer, we all said that, they asked members of the public.
The surgeon is his Mum. They were saying about Ruth Ellis being hung and how people said she couldn't be a murderer, murderers are men, so they asked people the riddle because it seems a lot of us stereotype, male murderers, male sugeons etc.
Its genius, so flipping 

[John]

Great answer, we all said that, they asked members of the public.
The surgeon is his Mum. They were saying about Ruth Ellis being hung and how people said she couldn't be a murderer, murderers are men, so they asked people the riddle because it seems a lot of us stereotype, male murderers, male sugeons etc.
Its genius, so flipping 

A good point Joanne.  I know men think that way but I am surprised that most women do too?  Just goes to show.