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Offline Benice

Re: Paedophile Roderick McDonald aka Roderick William Robinson arrested in Malta.
« Reply #285 on: December 10, 2014, 01:29:47 AM »
Perhaps he dropped anchor out near all those other luxury yachts & jumped in his dinghy. Who knows? I'm only citing what his friend allegedly said - and SY appear to think he may hold some useful information.

Didn't the OC nannies take the children out in dingys to the larger boats? 
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline misty

Re: Paedophile Roderick McDonald aka Roderick William Robinson arrested in Malta.
« Reply #286 on: December 10, 2014, 01:37:34 AM »
Didn't the OC nannies take the children out in dingys to the larger boats?

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CATRIONA-TREASA-B.htm
*snip*
- On the first two days the children played and did activities in the sand. On the Thursday they went sailing next to the beach.
 - On that day they sailed in a small yellow "catamaran";
 - Alice Standley accompanied the children on the route and on the boat. Three children sailed with her at one time;

 - Chris Unswork transported the children in a red amphibious boat (life-saving boat) until the boat reached the open sea, and, a few minutes later, returned them to the beach to pick up three other children from the group;
                           -----------------------------------------------------

I can't quite make sense of the arrangements, but they certainly went out to the open sea.
I thought I'd read they'd sailed to the adjoining bay, I'll see if I can find anything to substantiate that.

Offline pegasus

Re: Paedophile Roderick McDonald aka Roderick William Robinson arrested in Malta.
« Reply #287 on: December 10, 2014, 01:39:59 AM »
Perhaps he dropped anchor out near all those other luxury yachts & jumped in his dinghy. Who knows? I'm only citing what his friend allegedly said - and SY appear to think he may hold some useful information.
IMO it is the UK newspaper exaggerating, they do like to change locations to make their stories sound closer to PDL than they really are. Show me a photo of yachts moored off PDL and people coming ashore in dingies - I don't see any. Why anchor offshore and have to go ashore in a beachable dingy, when Lagos harbour and marina is just a few kilometres away?

Offline TitoMuzzy

Re: Paedophile Roderick McDonald aka Roderick William Robinson arrested in Malta.
« Reply #288 on: December 10, 2014, 01:46:08 AM »
Perhaps he dropped anchor out near all those other luxury yachts & jumped in his dinghy. Who knows? I'm only citing what his friend allegedly said - and SY appear to think he may hold some useful information.

Have you ever visited PdL ?

The nearest anchor point to PdL is Lagos harbour, there are no anchoring points in or around PdL for a yacht, suffice to say THERE WERE NO "ALL THOSE OTHER LUXURY YACHTS" moored anywhere around PdL on that (or any other) night !
« Last Edit: December 10, 2014, 05:17:00 AM by Eleanor »

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Paedophile Roderick McDonald aka Roderick William Robinson arrested in Malta.
« Reply #289 on: December 10, 2014, 01:55:09 AM »
I can see that this thread has now lost all connection with its original title.

Therefore, I feel free to reply in like to the post above, which is equally way off course.

Silvia Batista?  Why on earth Silvia Batista?  She got phoned up and went into help to translate.  She gave her DNA.

How about Amy Tierney, who for reasons explained in Kate's book rushed through 5A probably leaving DNA everywhere but if she gave a DNA sample (to exclude her) I can't find it.

Can we get back to the paedophile story?

I have read up to about page 8 or page 9 or thereabouts on this thread.  So far, I have found nothing that puts Roderick McDonald in Luz at the time of the attack.  Unless it changes in the next 9 or now 10 pages, I am having to go with that.

If you want to see whether you get a credit at shininginluz.wordpress.com, you can always come and check it out there.

Or you could trust me, when I say that I always give credit where credit is due.

So you will get credit.  100%.  Definitely.

But please, isn't the purpose of this thread about one single paedophile who may, or may not, be involved in the Madeleine incident?

Can we please get back on topic?

Not yet  8)--)) Sylvia Batista was on the scene in 5A. She witnessed Tanner first talking about the man and child. She saw them trying to get the press involved when the police said no. The priest....she's an important witness to question for what was actually going on in the aftermath.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Benice

Re: Paedophile Roderick McDonald aka Roderick William Robinson arrested in Malta.
« Reply #290 on: December 10, 2014, 02:05:48 AM »
Have you ever visited PdL ?

The nearest anchor point to PdL is Lagos harbour, there are no anchoring points in or around PdL for a yacht.

Why so rude?

Re: Catriona Baker's statement.  It seems likely that dingies were used to transport the children to bigger boats IMO

Quote
REPORT OF EXTERNAL DILIGENCE

Date: 2007.05.10
Place: Praia da Luz, Lagos
Officer responsible: Manuel Pinho, Inspector

Description and result of diligence

On this date, in the company of my colleague Joao Barreiras and with Catriona Baker, the nanny responsible for the missing minor, we reconstructed the locations and their movements upon leaving the resort, in the direction of the beach.

Snipped


During the first two days, the children played and made activities in the sand. On Thursday they sailed to the next beach.

On this day the sailed in a small yellow catamaran.


Employee Alice Standley accompanied the children during this sailing trip. Three children at a time would travel with each infant educator.

Employee Chris Unswork transported the children, in a red amphibious dinghy, to the embarkation and a few minutes later, would return them to the beach and then pick up the remaining children.

Signed by the officer in charge.
End quote
« Last Edit: December 10, 2014, 05:18:32 AM by Eleanor »
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Benice

Re: Paedophile Roderick McDonald aka Roderick William Robinson arrested in Malta.
« Reply #291 on: December 10, 2014, 02:13:03 AM »
Not yet  8)--)) Sylvia Batista was on the scene in 5A. She witnessed Tanner first talking about the man and child. She saw them trying to get the press involved when the police said no. The priest....she's an important witness to question for what was actually going on in the aftermath.
/quote]

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Wasn't she referring to when the GNR said 'No Press allowed to the McCanns, which of course is the opposite of what would happen in the UK when the media is immediately used in missing child cases?   Being Portuguese she would also find it strange that Kate asked for a priest as apparently that doesn't happen in PT - unless someone has died

IMO two examples of how the the difference in cultures worked against the McCanns from the very beginning.


The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Paedophile Roderick McDonald aka Roderick William Robinson arrested in Malta.
« Reply #292 on: December 10, 2014, 08:17:58 AM »
Why so rude?

Re: Catriona Baker's statement.  It seems likely that dingies were used to transport the children to bigger boats IMO

Quote
REPORT OF EXTERNAL DILIGENCE

Date: 2007.05.10
Place: Praia da Luz, Lagos
Officer responsible: Manuel Pinho, Inspector

Description and result of diligence

On this date, in the company of my colleague Joao Barreiras and with Catriona Baker, the nanny responsible for the missing minor, we reconstructed the locations and their movements upon leaving the resort, in the direction of the beach.

Snipped


During the first two days, the children played and made activities in the sand. On Thursday they sailed to the next beach.

On this day the sailed in a small yellow catamaran.


Employee Alice Standley accompanied the children during this sailing trip. Three children at a time would travel with each infant educator.

Employee Chris Unswork transported the children, in a red amphibious dinghy, to the embarkation and a few minutes later, would return them to the beach and then pick up the remaining children.

Signed by the officer in charge.
End quote

I would expect small cats which would be launched from the beach at the start of the session and brought ashore afterwards. The users bring ferried out and back by rib as required. It is not a location to anchor off due to prevailing winds and tides.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Brietta

Re: Paedophile Roderick McDonald aka Roderick William Robinson arrested in Malta.
« Reply #293 on: December 10, 2014, 10:20:51 AM »
I would expect small cats which would be launched from the beach at the start of the session and brought ashore afterwards. The users bring ferried out and back by rib as required. It is not a location to anchor off due to prevailing winds and tides.

Praia Da Luz was originally a fishing village ... so access to the open sea could not have presented much of a challenge to its inhabitants.

A temporary offshore mooring is most definitely not an impossibility ... nor is it impossible to cast off in a dingy and sail to Lagos. 

Almost every tourist guide mentions the accessibility to water; just because this man rightly or wrongly may have boasted about PDL and may be of interest in Madeleine's case ... does not obliterate the fact that it would be perfectly possible for experienced sailors to take cognisance of prevailing winds and tides, and moor offshore.

Quote:
You will find there are good water SPORTS FACILITIES in Praia da Luz, such as scuba diving, snorkelling, waterskiing, windsurfing, a sailing school, paddleboats, boat trips and from 2011 Luz has its own Bowling club.
http://www.luz-info.com/

"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Paedophile Roderick McDonald aka Roderick William Robinson arrested in Malta.
« Reply #294 on: December 10, 2014, 05:36:05 PM »
Praia Da Luz was originally a fishing village ... so access to the open sea could not have presented much of a challenge to its inhabitants.

A temporary offshore mooring is most definitely not an impossibility ... nor is it impossible to cast off in a dingy and sail to Lagos. 

Almost every tourist guide mentions the accessibility to water; just because this man rightly or wrongly may have boasted about PDL and may be of interest in Madeleine's case ... does not obliterate the fact that it would be perfectly possible for experienced sailors to take cognisance of prevailing winds and tides, and moor offshore.

Quote:
You will find there are good water SPORTS FACILITIES in Praia da Luz, such as scuba diving, snorkelling, waterskiing, windsurfing, a sailing school, paddleboats, boat trips and from 2011 Luz has its own Bowling club.
http://www.luz-info.com/

What do you suggest they moor to?
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Anna

Re: Paedophile Roderick McDonald aka Roderick William Robinson arrested in Malta.
« Reply #295 on: December 10, 2014, 05:55:35 PM »
What do you suggest they moor to?

Could it not have been anchored offshore, Starti?
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Paedophile Roderick McDonald aka Roderick William Robinson arrested in Malta.
« Reply #296 on: December 10, 2014, 06:35:10 PM »
Could it not have been anchored offshore, Starti?

Possible but not very comfortable.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Brietta

Re: Paedophile Roderick McDonald aka Roderick William Robinson arrested in Malta.
« Reply #297 on: December 10, 2014, 06:41:39 PM »
What do you suggest they moor to?

Despite your determination that it is impossible to moor or lie at anchor off Praia Da Luz, you should give a little more thought to what is and is not possible and you should give a little more thought to the terminology used.

If you follow the link ... http://photoeverywhere.co.uk/east/fiji/fiji_sailing.jpg you will see a photograph the caption of which is ...  Luxury catamaran moored offshore in mid ocean ... and not a jetty in sight.

IMO they chucked an anchor over the side, as Anna has suggested.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Paedophile Roderick McDonald aka Roderick William Robinson arrested in Malta.
« Reply #298 on: December 10, 2014, 06:47:26 PM »
Despite your determination that it is impossible to moor or lie at anchor off Praia Da Luz, you should give a little more thought to what is and is not possible and you should give a little more thought to the terminology used.

If you follow the link ... http://photoeverywhere.co.uk/east/fiji/fiji_sailing.jpg you will see a photograph the caption of which is ...  Luxury catamaran moored offshore in mid ocean ... and not a jetty in sight.

IMO they chucked an anchor over the side, as Anna has suggested.

I didn't say they couldn't anchor?
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Brietta

Re: Paedophile Roderick McDonald aka Roderick William Robinson arrested in Malta.
« Reply #299 on: December 10, 2014, 08:01:51 PM »
I didn't say they couldn't anchor?

IMO you didn't really say anything at all.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....