Author Topic: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?  (Read 82050 times)

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Alfred R Jones

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Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #75 on: February 15, 2015, 10:47:29 PM »
Yes it is. Previously it was accepted by many on here that the declaration about the 9 was a statment of fact that was set in stone til the end of the investigation.

You have admitted that actually it could change if evidence is uncovered.

That's saying that at the point he was asked the question based on the work he and his team had done they weren't suspects, but further work could change that.

Which is what I for one have said all along about that particular pearl of wisdom from DCI Redwood.
So you don't think Redwood was forced to say that the McCanns weren't suspects, like some people on here believe?

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Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #76 on: February 15, 2015, 10:53:18 PM »
You are imagining things..where are the facts to support you accusations...you don't have any...you should try and read and understand posts more accurately...you have failed to do so

Really it was in the first post I quoted from Benice:

The one major achievement by SY that we do know about - because the public WAS informed by SY -  is that they have specifically ruled out 9 people from the case.  i.e. the McCanns and their friends.    The PJ have also eliminated them from the enquiry.

Dreary me I see Dave hasn't changed!

Offline Albertini

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #77 on: February 15, 2015, 10:54:01 PM »
So you don't think Redwood was forced to say that the McCanns weren't suspects, like some people on here believe?

I have no idea either way but that wasn't the point I was making and you know it.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #78 on: February 15, 2015, 10:56:34 PM »
let me spell it out nice and simply for you...based on the existing evidence the McCanns are not suspects

That is a rash statement to make unless you have inside track on what Wall of the Yard is up to.
As she has been remarkably quiet since just before DCI Redwood stood down you either are privy to Nicola Wall's lines of inquiry or you are guessing. I wonder which it is.
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Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #79 on: February 15, 2015, 10:57:44 PM »
let me spell it out nice and simply for you...based on the existing evidence the McCanns are not suspects

If SY aren't providing a running commentary, As pointed out by Benice, how do you know what evidence they have?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #80 on: February 15, 2015, 11:01:09 PM »
That is a rash statement to make unless you have inside track on what Wall of the Yard is up to.
As she has been remarkably quiet since just before DCI Redwood stood down you either are privy to Nicola Walls lines of inquiry or you guessing. I wonder which it is.

it is far from a rash statement...it is a well considered statement...on par with "I don't think Maddie was abducted by aliens"...

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Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #81 on: February 15, 2015, 11:03:25 PM »
Really it was in the first post I quoted from Benice:

The one major achievement by SY that we do know about - because the public WAS informed by SY -  is that they have specifically ruled out 9 people from the case.  i.e. the McCanns and their friends.    The PJ have also eliminated them from the enquiry.

Dreary me I see Dave hasn't changed!

SY have specifically ruled out the Mccanns

Alfred R Jones

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Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #82 on: February 15, 2015, 11:04:37 PM »
What evidence do we have regarding the Met's opinion of the McCanns' innocence or otherwise?  Well we do have the statement made by Andy Redwood as shown in my signature below, and that evidence tends to strongly suggest that the Met don't regard the McCanns as suspects.  And on the other hand we have - NOTHING AT ALL, which to the "sceptic" seems to suggest that the Met may well consider the McCanns as suspects.  It's quite hilarious, really.

Offline Albertini

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #83 on: February 15, 2015, 11:05:43 PM »
SY have specifically ruled out the Mccanns

Sigh. Read the posts again and my original one in response to Benice and your reply.

Are you stuck on a loop?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #84 on: February 15, 2015, 11:08:28 PM »
Sigh. Read the posts again and my original one in response to Benice and your reply.

Are you stuck on a loop?

no I am not...Mccanns have been declared not suspects by SY...Fact..what part of that do you not understand

Offline Albertini

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #85 on: February 15, 2015, 11:11:11 PM »
What evidence do we have regarding the Met's opinion of the McCanns' innocence or otherwise?  Well we do have the statement made by Andy Redwood as shown in my signature below, and that evidence tends to strongly suggest that the Met don't regard the McCanns as suspects.  And on the other hand we have - NOTHING AT ALL, which to the "sceptic" seems to suggest that the Met may well consider the McCanns as suspects.  It's quite hilarious, really.

Nope that won't do Alfred.

You are deliberately missing the point.

Benice stated that the one achievement of the yard was the declaration that the McCann's werent suspects or persons of interest (made right at the start of the investigation).

But then it was also stated that by Benice that the yard won't be giving a running commentary.

I therefore asked the question that given the yards lack of running commentary how do we know for certain that that statement made many months ago has not changed?

The only reasonable answer is there is absolutely no guarantee that that statement still stands within the investigation.

Why can't you accept that basic concept?

Offline Albertini

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #86 on: February 15, 2015, 11:12:24 PM »
no I am not...Mccanns have been declared not suspects by SY...Fact..what part of that do you not understand

Read my first contribution to this thread and your reply and either switch the loop off or come back to the point you were at in our earlier exchanges.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #87 on: February 15, 2015, 11:16:25 PM »
Read my first contribution to this thread and your reply and either switch the loop off or come back to the point you were at in our earlier exchanges.

AS I don't think you have the ability to understand the point I will do neither...The McCanns are not suspects according to SY...obviously if new evidence comes to light that situation would change...but there aint no new information and SY are not investigating them

Offline Brietta

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #88 on: February 15, 2015, 11:18:33 PM »

One thing DCI Andy Redwood achieved in doing his duty is that a whole pot of vitriol has been stirred up against him ... so he very obviously got something right ...

We will know that DCI Nicola Wall is getting somewhere when she gets more of the same treatment ... maybe even her very own thread here.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Albertini

Re: What has Redwood achieved in the Mccann case ?
« Reply #89 on: February 15, 2015, 11:19:43 PM »
AS I don't think you have the ability to understand the point I will do neither...The McCanns are not suspects according to SY...obviously if new evidence comes to light that situation would change...but there aint no new information and SY are not investigating them

How do you know there isn't new information?
How do you know they aren't being investigated?
How do you know they are still not considered suspects?

If as Benice and the yard have stated they aren't providing a running commentary?

The paucity of your argument and steadfastness in clinging to the McCann supporter mantra delivered by redwood is really quite revealing.