Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.

[Holly Goodhead]

Several cases a cadaver DOG SEARCH HAS resulted in a perpetrator confessing to the crime.  From memory the one discussed on the forum was the Zapata case.

So even if the evidence wasn't good enough to go to court with, the psychological pressure applied on the witness was enough to make him crack.

Well I don't know anything about the Zapata case but in MM's case the dogs have not produced anything remotely meaningful let alone anything capable of finding its way to court. 

[Holly Goodhead]

Some people think it lasts forever but it doesn't as you have pointed out by logic.  If it did last forever it would be everywhere.

I'm not sure I suggested it doesn't last forever?  I don't know how long it lasts but what I do know from the report produced about SM is that the cadaver odour is capable of being transferred from one place to another by items that have been in contact with corpses and this makes the alerts highly unreliable in a lot of instances. 

I often take things to charity shops and hold my breath as I enter as to my nose they all have a sort of musty smell, maybe scent of death about them, could this be cadaver odour?  A lot of people take things to charity shops when they have a clear out after someone has died.  Maybe MG could take his dogs in and see what sort of alerts they give off!  Bet they would howl the place down!

[ShiningInLuz]

You posted... Actually it would.... So cite for what it would indicate

Your being silly.

Forum rules do not require a cite for your hypothetical.

[Mr Gray]

Your being silly.

Forum rules do not require a cite for your hypothetical.

I didn't ask for a cite for hypothetical.. You are posting nonsense

[ShiningInLuz]

The remit did not state the investigation had not begun at the beginning... From what I have seen SY looked, at all the evidence against the mccanns and have come to the, same conclusion I and many others, have.... The mccanns are not involved

I don't care about your opinion on this, nor that of the alleged 'many others'.

You asked a question, you got the answer, it's the remit.

[Mr Gray]

I don't care about your opinion on this, nor that of the alleged 'many others'.

You asked a question, you got the answer, it's the remit.

Your answer is wrong as you might realise when you understand when the remit was decided

[ShiningInLuz]

Hypothetically - what would it show if MM's DNA was indeed found in the hire car?

There was no dog alert in 4G, where the McCanns stayed for 2 months, and which was subjected to a dog search.

I'll leave you to do the hypotheticals.

[Mr Gray]

Hypothetically - what would it show if MM's DNA was indeed found in the hire car?

It wouldnt show anything because  such a small amount could be present by transference.. If anyone disagrees they should explain why... They won't be able to

[Mr Gray]

Hypothetically - what would it show if MM's DNA was indeed found in the hire car?

[ShiningInLuz]

I'm not sure I suggested it doesn't last forever?  I don't know how long it lasts but what I do know from the report produced about SM is that the cadaver odour is capable of being transferred from one place to another by items that have been in contact with corpses and this makes the alerts highly unreliable in a lot of instances. 

I often take things to charity shops and hold my breath as I enter as to my nose they all have a sort of musty smell, maybe scent of death about them, could this be cadaver odour?  A lot of people take things to charity shops when they have a clear out after someone has died.  Maybe MG could take his dogs in and see what sort of alerts they give off!  Bet they would howl the place down!

There's an interesting thought.

I wonder how one would check whether items were from a deceased or a living person?

[Mr Gray]

I'm not sure I suggested it doesn't last forever?  I don't know how long it lasts but what I do know from the report produced about SM is that the cadaver odour is capable of being transferred from one place to another by items that have been in contact with corpses and this makes the alerts highly unreliable in a lot of instances. 

I often take things to charity shops and hold my breath as I enter as to my nose they all have a sort of musty smell, maybe scent of death about them, could this be cadaver odour?  A lot of people take things to charity shops when they have a clear out after someone has died.  Maybe MG could take his dogs in and see what sort of alerts they give off!  Bet they would howl the place down!

Proper testing of the dogs would involve this sort of thing

[jassi]

I'm not sure I suggested it doesn't last forever?  I don't know how long it lasts but what I do know from the report produced about SM is that the cadaver odour is capable of being transferred from one place to another by items that have been in contact with corpses and this makes the alerts highly unreliable in a lot of instances. 

I often take things to charity shops and hold my breath as I enter as to my nose they all have a sort of musty smell, maybe scent of death about them, could this be cadaver odour?  A lot of people take things to charity shops when they have a clear out after someone has died.  Maybe MG could take his dogs in and see what sort of alerts they give off!  Bet they would howl the place down!

No, the alerts are perfectly reliable. Its the human interpretation of the alerts that can be a bit iffy.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

I'm not sure I suggested it doesn't last forever?  I don't know how long it lasts but what I do know from the report produced about SM is that the cadaver odour is capable of being transferred from one place to another by items that have been in contact with corpses and this makes the alerts highly unreliable in a lot of instances. 

I often take things to charity shops and hold my breath as I enter as to my nose they all have a sort of musty smell, maybe scent of death about them, could this be cadaver odour?  A lot of people take things to charity shops when they have a clear out after someone has died.  Maybe MG could take his dogs in and see what sort of alerts they give off!  Bet they would howl the place down!

Except forensic science shows they are not often wrong. They are right 90-100% of the time. So in these eleven alerts - one, maybe two I’d accept as false positives... but eleven??! And all eleven relating to just one family.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

No, the alerts are perfectly reliable. Its the human interpretation of the alerts that can be a bit iffy.

Indeed!!

[Mr Gray]

No, the alerts are perfectly reliable. Its the human interpretation of the alerts that can be a bit iffy.

There is no evidence the alerts are reliable
Even grime tells us they are merely suggestive