Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.

[Brietta]

Keela found no blood on the clothes. Eddie was specially trained to detect even the faintest cadaver scent as Keela was specially trained to alert to the blood even after it had been washed clean. Grime trained the dogs daily. That's why they were the best and Mark Harrison and the FBI used them.

"He has additionally trained exclusively using human remains in the U.S.A. in association with the F.B.I. The enhanced training of the dog has also involved the use of collection of 'cadaver scent' odour from human corpses using remote technical equipment which does not contact the subject."

Eddie wasn't averse to lifting discarded food from waste bins ... or was that part of his training to show he wasn't really bothered with road kill or whatever?

Who can ever forget him barking for his little cuddly pink toy hidden in a cupboard?

[pathfinder73]

Eddie wasn't averse to lifting discarded food from waste bins ... or was that part of his training to show he wasn't really bothered with road kill or whatever?

Who can ever forget him barking for his little cuddly pink toy hidden in a cupboard?

He only alerts if he detects what he's trained to find. He only barks for one reason. SY were searching for a body last summer. The only evidence they have of death is the dogs. Nothing else. Not other cases of children being abducted and killed in Luz made them come to that conclusion.

[misty]

He only alerts if he detects what he's trained to find. He only barks for one reason. SY were searching for a body last summer. The only evidence they have of death is the dogs. Nothing else. Not other cases of children being abducted and killed in Luz made them come to that conclusion.

No. Dog in the singular. Keela was trained to detect blood. All her alerts had forensic corroboration & were blood from living humans.
If Madeleine died in that apartment she did not bleed.
That leaves Eddie as the sole source of cadaver indication.
Eddie was not trained to the same level as FBI dogs, whatever type of spin you put on it. He wasn't even trained to mark the point of scent. merely to bark. Unlike the FBI dogs, as shown on your Body Farm video.
You have to ask the question - in whose interest was it to deploy Eddie & Keela in the search for Madeleine?

[pathfinder73]

No. Dog in the singular. Keela was trained to detect blood. All her alerts had forensic corroboration & were blood from living humans.
If Madeleine died in that apartment she did not bleed.
That leaves Eddie as the sole source of cadaver indication.
Eddie was not trained to the same level as FBI dogs, whatever type of spin you put on it. He wasn't even trained to mark the point of scent. merely to bark. Unlike the FBI dogs, as shown on your Body Farm video.
You have to ask the question - in whose interest was it to deploy Eddie & Keela in the search for Madeleine?

How do you know she didn't bleed? Eddie got top marks at the body farm. Both dogs passed with flying colours I was told and Martin Grime first took both dogs to the body farm in 2005.

[Brietta]

No. Dog in the singular. Keela was trained to detect blood. All her alerts had forensic corroboration & were blood from living humans.
If Madeleine died in that apartment she did not bleed.
That leaves Eddie as the sole source of cadaver indication.
Eddie was not trained to the same level as FBI dogs, whatever type of spin you put on it. He wasn't even trained to mark the point of scent. merely to bark. Unlike the FBI dogs, as shown on your Body Farm video.
You have to ask the question - in whose interest was it to deploy Eddie & Keela in the search for Madeleine?

Doesn't look as if anyone is interested in thinking that one through to its logical conclusion.

As far as I am concerned the person picking up the financial rewards for the dogs' expedition to PDL might be in pole position.

[DCI]

He only alerts if he detects what he's trained to find. He only barks for one reason. SY were searching for a body last summer. The only evidence they have of death is the dogs. Nothing else. Not other cases of children being abducted and killed in Luz made them come to that conclusion.

If he only barks for one reason, what was the reason for him barking about 6 times up the garage wall?

[Brietta]

If he only barks for one reason, what was the reason for him barking about 6 times up the garage wall?

Excellent point ... he was desperate to get to that wall and kept returning to it.

[Anna]

Excellent point ... he was desperate to get to that wall and kept returning to it.

The explanation that I was given IIRC, was that the Air fan up high on that wall, was circulating the scent and it was the centre of the "scent cone"

However, I think that he had just found some concrete evidence.

[Brietta]

The explanation that I was given IIRC, was that the Air fan up high on that wall, was circulating the scent and it was the centre of the "scent cone"

However, I think that he had just found some concrete evidence.

How I wish I had said that ... LOL is perfectly apt, I am still laughing!

[misty]

The explanation that I was given IIRC, was that the Air fan up high on that wall, was circulating the scent and it was the centre of the "scent cone"

However, I think that he had just found some concrete evidence.

Brilliant, Anna

Amazing how strong the cadaver odour was on the key which didn't cross contaminate anything else.

[pathfinder73]

If he only barks for one reason, what was the reason for him barking about 6 times up the garage wall?

Myth

[Wonderfulspam]

Myth

So many myths in this case.

Like abduction for example.

[stephen25000]

So many myths in this case.

Like abduction for example.

The biggest of them all.

[misty]

Are you pair claiming that the Eddie & Keela video was doctored, then?

[Wonderfulspam]

Are you pair claiming that the Eddie & Keela video was doctored, then?

'barking about 6 times up the garage wall?'

Show me that bit.