Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.

[ShiningInLuz]

Cite for I said  grime made the claim... That's the third most ridiculous thing I've heard.. I said amaral makes the claim in his book

Post 563.

[Mr Gray]

I think you have answered it well enough.  SIL IMO was wrong thinking you said Grime made that claim.  Leave it at that.

I asked sil for a cite but if you don't intend to enforce forum rules I will have to accept that

[Robittybob1]

Well I'll ask this:  Do you think it is impossible for cadaver odour to permeate a couple of inches of concrete?

"A cadaver dog can actually detect human remains through concrete, buried underground, or at the bottom of a body of water, using its extremely well-honed noses to search for faint traces of the chemicals emitted by the human body during decomposition. " https://behindthecrime.wordpress.com/about/the-working-dogs/

Davel, howabout answering this question: Do you think it is impossible for cadaver odour to permeate a couple of inches of concrete?

[Holly Goodhead]

It was up to the first investigation to find evidence about what had occured and whatever their reasons were they failed. As Pedro do Carmo said in 2017, all possbilities were still being considered. They still didn't have enough evidence to identify the crime. That's why I think theorising about 'watchers' and 'abductors' is somewhat premature when there's no evidence that such people existed.

Not all crimes are solved whether it be PJ, SY, FBI or some other outfit.  And some are solved in terms of a conviction and then years/decades later found to be miscarriages of justice. 

Who would you like to theorise about?  The McCanns along with Murat were made aguidos - that status has long since been removed because there was nothing to underpin it.   

[Robittybob1]

Post 563.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=6106.msg542167#msg542167  I think you have misunderstood the conversation SIl

[Eleanor]

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=6106.msg542167#msg542167  I think you have misunderstood the conversation SIl

So do I.

[Mr Gray]

Davel, howabout answering this question: Do you think it is impossible for cadaver odour to permeate a couple of inches of concrete?

its  amatter of permeability isnt it.......i dont really have a clue....but I would have thought it would permeate brown paper....but it seems it didnt in the Lane case

[ShiningInLuz]

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=6106.msg542167#msg542167  I think you have misunderstood the conversation SIl

Not in the slightest.

When G-Unit is quoted as "... I'm discussing the never ending attempts to discredit Grime and his dogs." the reply to this is clearly and unambiguously attempting to discredit Grime and his dogs.

There is no mention of Amaral in that post.  Not even now that Davel has chosen to go back and amend it.

Perhaps you have conversations where the topic suddenly switches like that and you can make the jump across  the disconnect.  I do joined up communications.

By the way.

Have you noticed you are pursuing whether Eddie alerted to a body through concrete?  When the substance was not concrete?  And there's no evidence of such an alert by Eddie?  And no such claim by Amaral, or by Grime?

Classic deflection, Grime-bashing, Eddie-bashing and Amaral-bashing.  Obviously IMO.

[Mr Gray]

Not in the slightest.

When G-Unit is quoted as "... I'm discussing the never ending attempts to discredit Grime and his dogs." the reply to this is clearly and unambiguously attempting to discredit Grime and his dogs.

There is no mention of Amaral in that post.  Not even now that Davel has chosen to go back and amend it.

Perhaps you have conversations where the topic suddenly switches like that and you can make the jump across  the disconnect.  I do joined up communications.

By the way.

Have you noticed you are pursuing whether Eddie alerted to a body through concrete?  When the substance was not concrete?  And there's no evidence of such an alert by Eddie?  And no such claim by Amaral, or by Grime?

Classic deflection, Grime-bashing, Eddie-bashing and Amaral-bashing.  Obviously IMO.

And this post is a classic example of absolute rubbish

As I dint believe a body was found under concrete it's no criticism of grime or his dogs.. You've made a very silly error.. Best just admit it

[ShiningInLuz]

And this post is a classic example of absolute rubbish

As I dint believe a body was found under concrete it's no criticism of grime or his dogs.. You've made a very silly error.. Best just admit it

 

[Mr Gray]

Not in the slightest.

When G-Unit is quoted as "... I'm discussing the never ending attempts to discredit Grime and his dogs." the reply to this is clearly and unambiguously attempting to discredit Grime and his dogs.

There is no mention of Amaral in that post.  Not even now that Davel has chosen to go back and amend it.

Perhaps you have conversations where the topic suddenly switches like that and you can make the jump across  the disconnect.  I do joined up communications.

By the way.

Have you noticed you are pursuing whether Eddie alerted to a body through concrete?  When the substance was not concrete?  And there's no evidence of such an alert by Eddie?  And no such claim by Amaral, or by Grime?

Classic deflection, Grime-bashing, Eddie-bashing and Amaral-bashing.  Obviously IMO.

More recently, it's Eddie who helps to find a body buried under a flagstone at the former orphanage, Haut-de-la-Garenne, in Jersey, setting for a terrible case of paedophilia and child murder.

flagstone
​
a large, flat piece of stone or concrete used for paths, floors, etc.



so according to amaral in his book eddie alerted to a body under a flagstone...I think my post is accurate ...yours isnt.

its not Grime or dog bashing ...its very critical of amaral but it criticism based on fact

[ShiningInLuz]

More recently, it's Eddie who helps to find a body buried under a flagstone at the former orphanage, Haut-de-la-Garenne, in Jersey, setting for a terrible case of paedophilia and child murder.

flagstone
​
a large, flat piece of stone or concrete used for paths, floors, etc.


Perhaps you need to get on to Wikipedia to tell them that you know more about flagstone and concrete blocks than they do.

 

Flagstone (flag) is a generic flat stone, cutting regular rectangular or square in shape and usually used for paving slabs or walkways, patios, flooring, fences and roofing. It may be used for memorials, headstones, facades and other construction. The name derives from Middle English flagge meaning turf, perhaps from Old Norse flaga meaning slab or chip.[1]

House on Westray, Orkney, with flagstone roof
Flagstone is a sedimentary rock that is split into layers along bedding planes. Flagstone is usually a form of a sandstone composed of feldspar and quartz and is arenaceous in grain size (0.16 mm – 2 mm in diameter). The material that binds flagstone is usually composed of silica, calcite, or iron oxide. The rock color usually comes from these cementing materials. Typical flagstone colors are red, blue, and buff, though exotic colors exist.

Flagstone is quarried in places with bedded sedimentary rocks with fissile bedding planes.

Flagstones of various sizes
Around the thirteenth century, the ceilings, walls and floors in European architecture became more ornate. Anglo-Saxons in particular used flagstones as flooring materials in the interior rooms of castles and other structures.[2] Lindisfarne Castle in England and Muchalls Castle (14th century) in Scotland are among many examples of buildings with surviving flagstone floors.


so according to amaral in his book eddie alerted to a body under a flagstone...I think my post is accurate ...yours isnt.

its not Grime or dog bashing ...its very critical of amaral but it criticism based on fact

[Mr Gray]

would you like to defend this claim by amaral in his documentary..

23.29 – The investigation uses two very special dogs that are used by the English and North American police, that have successfully solved over 200 cases


another load of codswallop....but you probably believe it all

[G-Unit]

Not all crimes are solved whether it be PJ, SY, FBI or some other outfit.  And some are solved in terms of a conviction and then years/decades later found to be miscarriages of justice. 

Who would you like to theorise about?  The McCanns along with Murat were made aguidos - that status has long since been removed because there was nothing to underpin it.

I don't see this case ever being solved tbh. Why not look for evidence and theorise about that?

[Mr Gray]

I don't see this case ever being solved tbh. Why not look for evidence and theorise about that?

Isn't that what both investigations have been doing