Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.

[Vertigo Swirl]

So it seems we are moving towards death prior to the McCanns leaving for dinner on the night of the 3rd.  So for this to be the case we must accept that the McCanns were ablee to appear completely untroubled by this event, to be happy for others to check on their apartment where they knew a dead child lay.  Who else knew about this situation?  In other  words who of their friends was covering up for them and why would they do so if Madeleine had had an accident?

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Don’t you see that you are having to invent all sorts of wild and improbable scenarios in order to fit the dog alerts, anything rather than consider the possibility that the alerts were red herrings?  Surely the dog alerts should be used to corroborate other evidence rather than trying to hammer the other evidence into some sort of shape around the dog alerts?

Not all. It’s wild and improbable to believe these specialised dogs which are tested and accredited suddenly start making false alerts and only in places and objects directly related to one family. Once maybe... but eleven times? Also we know that human cellular material was found where Keela alerted.

[faithlilly]

So it seems we are moving towards death prior to the McCanns leaving for dinner on the night of the 3rd.  So for this to be the case we must accept that the McCanns were ablee to appear completely untroubled by this event, to be happy for others to check on their apartment where they knew a dead child lay.  Who else knew about this situation?  In other  words who of their friends was covering up for them and why would they do so if Madeleine had had an accident?

Weren’t they able to act completely untroubled after their daughter’s disappearance? Isn’t that why people found them so strange ?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Weren’t they able to act completely untroubled after their daughter’s disappearance? Isn’t that why people found them so strange ?

no, they appeared so very troubled that many remarked upon it in their statements.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

So it seems we are moving towards death prior to the McCanns leaving for dinner on the night of the 3rd.  So for this to be the case we must accept that the McCanns were ablee to appear completely untroubled by this event, to be happy for others to check on their apartment where they knew a dead child lay.  Who else knew about this situation?  In other  words who of their friends was covering up for them and why would they do so if Madeleine had had an accident?

Read DP's rogatory interview with regards to what he says about the bedtime visit. And why doesn't he remember KM had taken a shower? Surely someone dressed in a towel is something you would actually remember - but it's his whole description of the visit that rings alarm bells to me. The dog alerts IMO would indicate a death between 17:30 and 20:20 given what forensic science tells us about dog reliability and human decomposition. So an accident around bedtime would fit, yes.

[faithlilly]

no, they appeared so very troubled that many remarked upon it in their statements.

But in public they were composed and even, at times, laughed. This was while believing that their daughter may have been taken by paedophiles.

Now tell me that they didn’t have the ability to act normally if the circumstances demanded it ?

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

no, they appeared so very troubled that many remarked upon it in their statements.

Sometimes people can remain calm when they need to in the face of incredible stress or grief. There are many psychological studies about it but it is also a tenet of the fight or flight response, caused by the sympathetic nervous system and a release of adrenaline and noradrenaline.

[The General]

Sometimes people can remain calm when they need to in the face of incredible stress or grief. There are many psychological studies about it but it is also a tenet of the fight or flight response, caused by the sympathetic nervous system and a release of adrenaline and noradrenaline.

I remember sitting in my mates kitchen before walking off to school one morning.
His mum came in and said, in a round about fashion 'Karl, your nanna died last night'.
Karl started laughing. So I did too.
So yeh, there's something in that.

[Vertigo Swirl]

But in public they were composed and even, at times, laughed. This was while believing that their daughter may have been taken by paedophiles.

Now tell me that they didn’t have the ability to act normally if the circumstances demanded it ?

We are talking minutes after discovering their daughter dead righht?  Not many days later when they may have allowed themselves a fleeting smile or laugh. You appear to be telling me that the McCanns had the ability to act perfectly normal despite the immediate shock and distress of having caused their own child’s death.  I wonder how you came to this conclusion.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I remember sitting in my mates kitchen before walking off to school one morning.
His mum came in and said, in a round about fashion 'Karl, your nanna died last night'.
Karl started laughing. So I did too.
So yeh, there's something in that.

How long did the merriment last?

[faithlilly]

We are talking minutes after discovering their daughter dead righht?  Not many days later when they may have allowed themselves a fleeting smile or laugh. You appear to be telling me that the McCanns had the ability to act perfectly normal despite the immediate shock and distress of having caused their own child’s death.  I wonder how you came to this conclusion.

From video footage.

[The General]

How long did the merriment last?

Not long. His mum kicked off, so I made a swift exit as I remember.
Karl was obviously in some sort of shock, not knowing how to process the information, or not knowing the correct reaction.
He should have, we were both teachers and he was 37 at the time.

[Vertigo Swirl]

From video footage.

of the minutes following their “discovery”?  I don’t thiink so!

[Vertigo Swirl]

Not long. His mum kicked off, so I made a swift exit as I remember.
Karl was obviously in some sort of shock, not knowing how to process the information, or not knowing the correct reaction.
He should have, we were both teachers and he was 37 at the time.

The death of a grandparent should not come as a massive shock or trauma when you are 37, certainly not comparable to the death of your own child.

[The General]

The death of a grandparent should not come as a massive shock or trauma when you are 37, certainly not comparable to the death of your own child.

Nah, we were about 12. At that age neither of us had experienced death.
He was a weird kid though.