Author Topic: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.  (Read 181053 times)

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Offline Lace

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #930 on: July 06, 2019, 11:02:49 AM »
But based on evidence, unlike supposition and speculation about watchers, bloodlines, timelines, cadaver dog alerts, cadaver  dog handlers and what people 'must' have been thinking/feeling.

Strange how the Police didn't think the McCann's being watched was supposition and speculation isn't it?

Offline jassi

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #931 on: July 06, 2019, 11:05:29 AM »
Strange how the Police didn't think the McCann's being watched was supposition and speculation isn't it?


Police sometimes have to check things out even though they know it to be a waste of time just to stop people complaining about them.

OG have done this a lot

All IMO
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #932 on: July 06, 2019, 11:06:20 AM »
Were they 'sort of standing'  and 'at peace'   I thought they were looking at story books whilst Kate had a quick shower.   

As for David Payne,  he probably looked away from Kate, it bit embarrassed probably.



Exactly!! DP describes both "sort of standing" and also "at peace" when describing the children. It's his contradiction not mine.

Looking away because he is embarrassed is even more reason that he would remember she was wearing just a towel.

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #933 on: July 06, 2019, 11:13:30 AM »
Here is the bit where he describes the children "at peace"

"I went into their apartment through the patio doors. The three children were all you know dressed you know in their pyjamas, you know they looked immaculate, you know they were just like angels, they all looked so happy and well looked after and content and I said to Kate, you know it's a bit early for the you know, for the three of them to be going to bed, she said ah they've had such a great time, they're really tired and you know err so I say, you know I can't remember exactly what, what you know the night attire, what the children were wearing but white was the predominant err colour, but you know just to reinforce they were just so happy, you know seeing you know obviously Gerry wasn't there but they were just all, just so at peace and you know they looked like a family who'd had such a fantastic time and err yeah then I left there, went and got my stuff, went back to the tennis courts and then err there was me, Matt and Russell and I think Gerry played a little, for a little while but he decided that he'd, he'd played enough tennis for that day and err was going back and so it left with me, Russell and err Matt and err Dan who was the, the you know the tennis coach from Mark Warner. "

What would be speculation would be for me to suggest that GM left immediately after DP arriving.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #934 on: July 06, 2019, 11:18:39 AM »
Parent drugs children with prescription medicine, goes for a shower, comes out and finds child dying on the floor, does not call for medical assistance (too risky apparently giving your children phenargrn is illegal?) tries to save child’s life, fails, waits for hubbie to come, he says oh dear we will have to fake an abduction that’s far less risky than simply owning up to the actual sequence of events, now have this glass of wine and let’s go out and enjoy dinner with our mates, I’ve got this covered, just remember when you do the 10pm check to open the window and scream loudly “they’ve taken her”, then I will jog over close the window, oh and by then I will have already carried the body uncovered through town to dump in a bin, doesn’t matter if I’m seen, no one will suspect a thing.

Appeal to ridicule fallacy.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline jassi

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #935 on: July 06, 2019, 11:18:56 AM »
Here is the bit where he describes the children "at peace"

"I went into their apartment through the patio doors. The three children were all you know dressed you know in their pyjamas, you know they looked immaculate, you know they were just like angels, they all looked so happy and well looked after and content and I said to Kate, you know it's a bit early for the you know, for the three of them to be going to bed, she said ah they've had such a great time, they're really tired and you know err so I say, you know I can't remember exactly what, what you know the night attire, what the children were wearing but white was the predominant err colour, but you know just to reinforce they were just so happy, you know seeing you know obviously Gerry wasn't there but they were just all, just so at peace and you know they looked like a family who'd had such a fantastic time and err yeah then I left there, went and got my stuff, went back to the tennis courts and then err there was me, Matt and Russell and I think Gerry played a little, for a little while but he decided that he'd, he'd played enough tennis for that day and err was going back and so it left with me, Russell and err Matt and err Dan who was the, the you know the tennis coach from Mark Warner. "

What would be speculation would be for me to suggest that GM left immediately after DP arriving.

I reckon he must have had an extra large trowel to be able to lay that guff on so thick
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Lace

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #936 on: July 06, 2019, 11:22:41 AM »
Exactly!! DP describes both "sort of standing" and also "at peace" when describing the children. It's his contradiction not mine.

Looking away because he is embarrassed is even more reason that he would remember she was wearing just a towel.

Not really,   he knew she was wearing something that just about covered her.   How was he going to explain that he glanced at Kate and saw her trying to cover herself up with something.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #937 on: July 06, 2019, 11:24:01 AM »
Not really,   he knew she was wearing something that just about covered her.   How was he going to explain that he glanced at Kate and saw her trying to cover herself up with something.

It casts serious doubts on his or Kate’s reliability as witnesses.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #938 on: July 06, 2019, 11:28:10 AM »
It casts serious doubts on his or Kate’s reliability as witnesses.

David Payne is obviously a gentleman.  A dying breed that some of you know nothing about.

Offline Lace

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #939 on: July 06, 2019, 11:28:33 AM »
It casts serious doubts on his or Kate’s reliability as witnesses.

David Payne couldn't remember what the children had been wearing either.   

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #940 on: July 06, 2019, 11:29:41 AM »
David Payne couldn't remember what the children had been wearing either.

Maybe distracted.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Lace

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #941 on: July 06, 2019, 11:30:07 AM »
Exactly!! DP describes both "sort of standing" and also "at peace" when describing the children. It's his contradiction not mine.

Looking away because he is embarrassed is even more reason that he would remember she was wearing just a towel.

Could you give me a link to where David Payne said the children were 'sort of standing' please?

Offline Lace

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #942 on: July 06, 2019, 11:30:52 AM »
Maybe distracted.


No not very observant of that sort of thing like a lot of men.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #943 on: July 06, 2019, 11:31:38 AM »
David Payne is obviously a gentleman.  A dying breed that some of you know nothing about.

Well a gentleman would probably follow Kate’s narrative.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #944 on: July 06, 2019, 11:32:57 AM »
Well a gentleman would probably follow Kate’s narrative.

How would you know?