Author Topic: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.  (Read 181024 times)

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Offline Erngath

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #990 on: July 06, 2019, 01:18:28 PM »
Not a case of firmly believe, but it can't be ruled out IMO


Why would any evidence implicating the parents be ignored?
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #991 on: July 06, 2019, 01:19:27 PM »
Why would they ignore these alleged contradictions?

"Alleged" - you can read them for yourself.....

Granted bath or shower might become "bathed"..... but whether it was 19:30 and alone with the kids or 20:30 and with Gerry. That is a contradiction... and not a translation error.

30 seconds v 3-5 minutes is an inconsistency.
door closed v door open is an inconsistency.
spoke from outside v came into the apartment is an inconsistency.

Offline Erngath

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #992 on: July 06, 2019, 01:21:03 PM »
"Alleged" - you can read them for yourself.....

Granted bath or shower might become "bathed"..... but whether it was 19:30 and alone with the kids or 20:30 and with Gerry. That is a contradiction... and not a translation error.

30 seconds v 3-5 minutes is an inconsistency.
door closed v door open is an inconsistency.
spoke from outside v came into the apartment is an inconsistency.


Then presumably NSY have noticed these glaring inconsistencies.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #993 on: July 06, 2019, 01:24:30 PM »
Translation errors?

Bath..... Banho
Shower..... Chuveiro

Which did she have and when?

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #994 on: July 06, 2019, 01:25:32 PM »
And you replied with a post that had little relevance to the topic.
We are being asked to believe by some that thr mccanns found their daughter dead and immediately came up with a plan to cover it up and were able to go to dinner acting as if nothing had happened

I don't know who 'we' are, nor who 'some' are, which deflates your post.

I was responding to a post suggesting that convivial behaviour after a major incident makes that incident impossible.

It doesn't.
What's up, old man?

Offline Eleanor

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #995 on: July 06, 2019, 01:25:43 PM »
You need to ask the forensic science experts that question.

They haven't got the answer either.  No one has.  That is the problem with all of this speculation.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #996 on: July 06, 2019, 01:26:00 PM »
"Alleged" - you can read them for yourself.....

Granted bath or shower might become "bathed"..... but whether it was 19:30 and alone with the kids or 20:30 and with Gerry. That is a contradiction... and not a translation error.

30 seconds v 3-5 minutes is an inconsistency.
door closed v door open is an inconsistency.
spoke from outside v came into the apartment is an inconsistency.

She had just finished a long run and would be sweaty so that suggests she had a shower before Gerry left for tennis at 18:00. And that explains why David Payne remembered no towel at 18:30.
« Last Edit: July 06, 2019, 01:28:02 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #997 on: July 06, 2019, 01:26:54 PM »

Then presumably NSY have noticed these glaring inconsistencies.

There approach reportedly is to start the investigation from a point that rules out parental involvement - so who knows?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #998 on: July 06, 2019, 01:30:18 PM »
There approach reportedly is to start the investigation from a point that rules out parental involvement - so who knows?

Reported by whom

Offline Erngath

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #999 on: July 06, 2019, 01:30:23 PM »
There approach reportedly is to start the investigation from a point that rules out parental involvement - so who knows?

I do find it difficult to believe that evidence of parental involvement will be ignored by the investigation.
Don't you?
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #1000 on: July 06, 2019, 01:31:08 PM »
They haven't got the answer either.  No one has.  That is the problem with all of this speculation.

There answer was that the areas alerted to are likely to provide some evidence of value.

We know that they did. the test on the material found was "too complex for meaningful interpretation". There were 15 DNA markers than corresponded to MM's DNA, but DNA from more than one person. The conclusion being the cellular material may belong to MM - but may not.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #1001 on: July 06, 2019, 01:33:12 PM »
There answer was that the areas alerted to are likely to provide some evidence of value.

We know that they did. the test on the material found was "too complex for meaningful interpretation". There were 15 DNA markers than corresponded to MM's DNA, but DNA from more than one person. The conclusion being the cellular material may belong to MM - but may not.

So utterly useless.

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #1002 on: July 06, 2019, 01:33:33 PM »
She had just finished a long run and would be sweaty so that suggests she had a shower before Gerry left for tennis at 18:00. And that explains why David Payne remembered no towel at 18:30.

Why then does she initially say she had a bath at 20:30..... then later say she had a shower when Gerry was out playing tennis (around 18:30)?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #1003 on: July 06, 2019, 01:34:49 PM »
There answer was that the areas alerted to are likely to provide some evidence of value.

We know that they did. the test on the material found was "too complex for meaningful interpretation". There were 15 DNA markers than corresponded to MM's DNA, but DNA from more than one person. The conclusion being the cellular material may belong to MM - but may not.

You say likely... I say most unlikely

What difference would it make if it was maddies... Simple transference.... Sutton didn't seem to understand  that

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.
« Reply #1004 on: July 06, 2019, 01:35:02 PM »
In any realistic scenario the T7 would have to be involved

This time it's the qualifier 'realistic' that gives obvious wiggle room.

Why would the T7 have to be involved?

Some or all of them might or might not.
What's up, old man?