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Offline mercury

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #1290 on: July 25, 2015, 08:00:33 PM »
why was the case shelved...because of lack of evidence to proceed against the two arguidos...I am not implying( note not inferring) anything... just stating fact...

probably best to ignore my typos as your posts are full of grammatical, punctuation and spelling errors...

How extremely pedantic pointless  and petty of you

Having a space bar problem sometimes is not a sign of being grammatically stupid, will give you the "pertinant" point though, silly me, must give my A Level English Lit and Language certificates back and hope for their returns when I learn to spell "pertinent"

Offline mercury

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #1291 on: July 25, 2015, 08:02:38 PM »
of course...but now evidence is needed which was not the case when the mccanns were made arguida
Yes, the Portuguese judiciary allowed the PJ to make them arguidos based in someones evil whim...how gruesome

Offline Eleanor

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #1292 on: July 25, 2015, 08:03:43 PM »

Please can we stop this.  It's not helping or doing any thing for debate.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #1293 on: July 25, 2015, 08:06:29 PM »
How extremely pedantic pointless  and petty of you

Having a space bar problem sometimes is not a sign of being grammatically stupid, will give you the "pertinant" point though, silly me, must give my A Level English Lit and Language certificates back and hope for their returns when I learn to spell "pertinent"

as you have criticised me then....your misuse of the word infer instead of imply was you most revealing error

Offline mercury

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #1294 on: July 25, 2015, 08:08:28 PM »
Im happy to stop replyng to silly posts such as Amaral snooped down the local morgue and wiped his hanky on a handy corpse then ran to flat 5a to smear it in the sofa and bed so as to frame the Mccanns, AND that this idea is more likely than a child dyng by an accident, even if you cant stand the man, theres limits to "sensible" debate surely


Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #1295 on: July 25, 2015, 08:11:22 PM »
Im happy to stop replyng to silly posts such as Amaral snooped down the local morgue and wiped his hanky on a handy corpse then ran to flat 5a to smear it in the sofa and bed so as to frame the Mccanns, even if you cant stand the man, theres limits to "sensible" debate surely

as I have said far more likely than the ultra silly accusations by amaral against the mccanns. Particularly the man's gross ignorance of cadaver dog alerts and DNA....and he is supposed to be a professional

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #1296 on: July 25, 2015, 08:14:50 PM »


you will find that my accusation of evidence planting will stay as it's a perfectly reasonable suggestion
« Last Edit: July 25, 2015, 08:18:31 PM by Eleanor »

Offline Benice

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #1297 on: July 25, 2015, 08:19:06 PM »
Im happy to stop replyng to silly posts such as Amaral snooped down the local morgue and wiped his hanky on a handy corpse then ran to flat 5a to smear it in the sofa and bed so as to frame the Mccanns, AND that this idea is more likely than a child dyng by an accident, even if you cant stand the man, theres limits to "sensible" debate surely

On the other hand mercury,  who would have believed when Madeleine disappeared that her case would be investigated by two corrupt policemen.     One willing to lie to pervert the course of justice, and the other willing to torture people to get  'a result'.     And who have both ended up with criminal records because they had no qualms about abusing the power which had been entrusted to them.


The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline G-Unit

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #1298 on: July 25, 2015, 08:32:37 PM »
you will find that my accusation of evidence planting will stay as it's a perfectly reasonable suggestion

You do realise that by suggesting that the PJ planted cadaver scent in the apartment you are accepting that Eddie's alerts were correct? Therefore, if they didn't plant cadaver scent a body must have been there at some point?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #1299 on: July 25, 2015, 08:39:07 PM »
Im happy to stop replyng to silly posts such as Amaral snooped down the local morgue and wiped his hanky on a handy corpse then ran to flat 5a to smear it in the sofa and bed so as to frame the Mccanns, AND that this idea is more likely than a child dyng by an accident, even if you cant stand the man, theres limits to "sensible" debate surely
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Amaral would not have had to go to the local morgue.
Large police stations have their own PM room with cadavers waiting for autopsies

Offline mercury

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #1300 on: July 25, 2015, 08:39:38 PM »
as you have criticised me then....your misuse of the word infer instead of imply was you most revealing error
Still at the nonsense? Oh well, take a chill pill dear

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #1301 on: July 25, 2015, 08:44:21 PM »
Pheasant pen, it would seem

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2139103/Millionaire-farmer-strangled-wife-driving-pub-glass-whisky-inquest-hears.html

The balding businessman (Adrian Prout) made the admission taking a lie detector test – which he then failed.

British and European Polygraph Association chairman Don Cargill, recalled: “I said, ‘You’re a murderer.’ He just said ‘Ummmh.’ So I said, ‘Are you saying my test is wrong?’

“He actually replied, ‘No, your test is not wrong.’”

Don, also said: “He smiled in what was one of the most surreal and chilling experiences of my life.

“There was no emotion at all, he was really calm and cool, chillingly so.

“He’d been so used to being in control. He didn’t fool the jury but he’s fooled a lot of other people, his family and friends and his fiancee."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2139103/Millionaire-farmer-strangled-wife-driving-pub-glass-whisky-inquest-hears.html

Don Cargill, chairman of the British and European Polygraph Association, said the McCanns told him they would only take the test if it was 100 per cent accurate and admissible in a Portuguese court.

He told the Sunday Express: "Kate said she'd take it to prove her innocence but in reality, she wasn't willing."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-494765/Now-Kate-McCann-refuses-lie-detector-test-clear-name.html
« Last Edit: July 25, 2015, 08:47:55 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline mercury

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #1302 on: July 25, 2015, 08:44:36 PM »
On the other hand mercury,  who would have believed when Madeleine disappeared that her case would be investigated by two corrupt policemen.     One willing to lie to pervert the course of justice, and the other willing to torture people to get  'a result'.     And who have both ended up with criminal records because they had no qualms about abusing the power which had been entrusted to them.

IIRC Mr Amaral was found guilty in court of law for...well, do you know exactly  what? Bet you don't
In the case the two people tried were convicted for murder
You cant have it both ways iyswim
Who is the other bloke?
And how did Amaral and ANO abuse any power in the MM case?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #1303 on: July 25, 2015, 08:48:40 PM »
You do realise that by suggesting that the PJ planted cadaver scent in the apartment you are accepting that Eddie's alerts were correct? Therefore, if they didn't plant cadaver scent a body must have been there at some point?

Not at all , you are mistaken
There are several scenarios
Eddie could be wrong
Grime could be wrong
The alerts may have been due to contamination
There may have been a cadaver in the apartment previously



Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #1304 on: July 25, 2015, 08:57:40 PM »
There has to be a reason why the alerts are not admissible......
The only one I can think of is they are not reliable