The Murders At White House Farm by Carol Ann Lee

[Myster]

Been on a biz mtg all day.  Just looked at my messages and rcvd a text message from Waterstones CAL's book is ready for collection.  I'm off 

What the f...!!!... it's only supposed to be released on the 30th!

How come you get special treatment, Holly Golightly but Doolittle!!!

[Holly Goodhead]

What the f...!!!... it's only supposed to be released on the 30th!

How come you get special treatment, Holly Golightly but Doolittle!!!

 

[Myster]

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[Holly Goodhead]

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Home with said book in hand.  Breathless and trembling with anticipation of what might be as I turn each page....

[Myster]

Home with said book in hand.  Breathless and trembling with anticipation of what might be as I turn each page....

Mmmm    ... I know what it is! 
You've got a FREE advance copy so can you give a     rather than a  review for Waterstones before publication date.

[sika]

Home with said book in hand.  Breathless and trembling with anticipation of what might be as I turn each page....

I bet it's shit!

[Holly Goodhead]

I bet it's shit!

Awww Sika give the girl a break.  Its excellent.  CAL's research and attention to detail is outstanding.  She must have worked so hard to put this together and is clearly very talented.  I'm at page 163 and now moving to 7th Aug and post murders.  What I'm really enjoying is that everything is presented neutrally.  As I move onto SoC etc that may change.

It's definitely, by far, the best book I've read with regard to background.  Whether CAL can trump Wilkes on aspects like the blood evidence and silencer remains to be seen - I will report back!

So far well done CAL 

[Holly Goodhead]

I assume the Tora Tomkinson referred to in CAL's book and Tara referred to in Farhad Emami's (Freddie) WS's are one and the same with an O and A getting lost somewhere in translation?

Yes the Tara referred to in Freddie's WS and Tora Tomkinson are one and the same.  She was very close to SC and it appears she was also adopted.

[Holly Goodhead]

CAL interviewed Dr Vanezis.  He confirms the burn marks were made on the night of the murders.  He suggests the rifle/silencer as a result of the heat generated from firing.  He explains the lack of burn marks on NB's PJ's as a result of the different properties ie skin v cloth.  Which if you think about an iron for clothes makes sense.

He also suggests SC did put her hand up to her wound.

If the rifle/silencer did cause the burns as a result of firing I'm surprised the flake in the silencer wasn't destroyed to the extent it was incapable of yielding results for serological analysis   

[Holly Goodhead]

As far as I can see CAL has made a significant error in that she refers to the blood samples etc taken from the victims at post portem being sent direct to FSS.  Whereas according to Dr Vanezis' WS they were handed to EP and, according to a COLP interview, stored in the SoC fridge at chelmsford police station.

[Holly Goodhead]

Dr Vanezis refers to SC's two wounds as 'loose contact' as opposed to 'close contact'.  This coupled with the small calibre rifle, low velocity ammo, and use of a silencer makes drawback less likely.  Factor in the heat from firing the rifle ie  likely to destroy blood evidence and render useless for serological analysis and the so-called silencer/blood evidence is starting to look decidedly dodgy  &%+((£

[Holly Goodhead]

I have read SC was placed in foster care after June's 2nd breakdown in 1959 but according to CAL SC was looked after by NB and other family members.

SC - birthmother
               |
        Children's home
               |
        June
               |
        NB and other family members
               |
        June and Julia Sayer

The above shows the various 'caregivers' SC had during critical bonding periods where all the evidence shows the optimal situation is for an infant to bond with a single 'primary' caregiver.

Julia Sayer was a full-time nanny hired by the Bambers when June was released from St Andrews circa 1959.

[Holly Goodhead]

If the infant doesn't form sufficiently strong bonds leading to an 'attachment disorder' such as 'disorganised' attachment this can lead to a propensity towards violence, aggression and suicide.  And might explain the level of violence used at WHF.

The above is supported by all relevant experts across the globe and yet I still can't see that it has been considered and ruled in or out in connection with WHF.

[Myster]

If the infant doesn't form sufficiently strong bonds leading to an 'attachment disorder' such as 'disorganised' attachment this can lead to a propensity towards violence, aggression and suicide.  And might explain the level of violence used at WHF.

The above is supported by all relevant experts across the globe and yet I still can't see that it has been considered and ruled in or out in connection with WHF.

CAL believes Jeremy Bamber was the murderer... it says so in the Mail on Sunday. 

[John]

CAL interviewed Dr Vanezis.  He confirms the burn marks were made on the night of the murders.  He suggests the rifle/silencer as a result of the heat generated from firing.  He explains the lack of burn marks on NB's PJ's as a result of the different properties ie skin v cloth.  Which if you think about an iron for clothes makes sense.

He also suggests SC did put her hand up to her wound.

If the rifle/silencer did cause the burns as a result of firing I'm surprised the flake in the silencer wasn't destroyed to the extent it was incapable of yielding results for serological analysis   

I don't think so, had she put her hand to the wound it would have have blood on the palms and inner fingers and would have been completely smudged.  There would also have been a substantial amount of blood on the rifle and the trigger which there wasn't.