Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment

[Eleanor]

Yes we know Dave, the fictional abductor.

Have a care, Stephen.

[stephen25000]

Have a care, Stephen.

Have a care in what Eleanor ?

Contrary to what you may think or state, abduction has not been proved.

[Eleanor]

Have a care in what Eleanor ?

Contrary to what you may think or state, abduction has not been proved.

I am warning you, Stephen.  So just be careful.

[Alice Purjorick]

Your rather ham fisted attempt at insult makes any further communication between us rather futile as well as making anything else you wish to post an irrelevance as far as I am concerned.

Please desist from making assumptions on my behalf on the assurance that your posts are likely to be as relevant to my thinking as is raising the family tragedy of a little girl's death to the entirely unrelated family tragedy of a missing child.

I am far too much of a gentleman ever to gratuitously insult a lady.

Edit: It seems I like my infinitives split; oh well better than dangling participles I suppose.

[Mr Gray]

Yes we know Dave, the fictional abductor.

if you state..

A family tragedy firmly in the hands of the two people who initiated the events.....if there is an abductor then this is not true...therefore you are stating opinion as fact

[stephen25000]

if you state..

A family tragedy firmly in the hands of the two people who initiated the events.....if there is an abductor then this is not true...therefore you are stating opinion as fact

Abduction has not been proved.

The McCann's left their children unattended and at some point Madeleine disappeared.

FACTS.

[Brietta]

Abduction has not been proved.

The McCann's left their children unattended and at some point Madeleine disappeared.

FACTS.

Nothing has been conclusively 'proved' as far as we know about Madeleine McCann's disappearance.  Just as nothing has been conclusively proved regarding the very sad death of Chloe Godding.

I despair for those who cannot equate the disastrous effects both events have had on the respective families of two cherished little girls and feel the greatest sympathy for both families in their different types of devastating loss. 

[pegasus]

http://metro.co.uk/2015/12/18/toddler-dies-after-getting-stuck-behind-sofa-5573288/ ...(snip)

Misty you are good at searching.

[pegasus]

... 10 days ...

But how long would it have been if there had been no rescuer present Davel?
One minute? One and a half?

[Mr Gray]

But how long would it have been if there had been no rescuer present Davel?
One minute? One and a half?

find an example that fits....you cannot

[Mr Gray]

Abduction has not been proved.

The McCann's left their children unattended and at some point Madeleine disappeared.

FACTS.

just as Ben Needham was left

[stephen25000]

just as Ben Needham was left

NO comparison at at all.

His mother was working.

His grandparents were looking after him I believe.

Neither his mother or grandparents were drinking and dining the hours away.

[Mr Gray]

NO comparison at at all.

His mother was working.

His grandparents were looking after him I believe.

Neither his mother or grandparents were drinking and dining the hours away.

I don't want to labour the point but if Ben had not been left unattended he would still be here...fact
I don't blame Bens family and I don't blame the mccanns

[Brietta]

find an example that fits....you cannot

I have not seen an example of the accidental death of a child at home which replicates in any way the thesis dreamt up by Mr Amaral. 

I have not seen a case of the body of a loved and nurtured child who was a victim of accidental death in the home being hidden never to be found by his/her parents in accordance with Mr Amaral's theory. 

On the contrary, parents have sought immediate medical intervention as soon as the child's distress was discovered, as was documented in Chloe's case.

[Brietta]

They went out for dinner Stephen, the way you harp on you'd think they were roaring alcoholics.

What is done is done,  the McCann's live with it every day.

They have no choice in the matter, Lace.  Just as little Chloe's parents have no choice.  I think compassion for both families would be the most normal and appropriate emotion to feel.